2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Russell and Kimi handed 1 place penalty so will be interesting tomorrow's start Oscar vs Charles to Turn 1.
If Lando manage to have a proper start and overtakes at least Gasly, a double podium is on cards. Finger crossed for a 1-2.

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SilviuAgo wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 21:42
Russell and Kimi handed 1 place penalty so will be interesting tomorrow's start Oscar vs Charles to Turn 1.
Even if Leclerc comes out ahead after T4, Piastri will likely get by him before the end of the first stint. With the double DRS zone here, it's supremely hard to keep a car behind that is both inherently faster and has markedly better rear tire preservation than you.

Piastri will win the race without any shenanigans. All about what Norris can do. Wouldn't be surprised if P2 is still very possible. More interesting will probably be Leclerc vs Russell.

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So the upgrades that Mclaren brought for Lando didn't work?
Andrea Stella has stated that the upgrades McLaren has brought to Bahrain are purposely for helping Lando Norris drive the MCL39 'more naturally'.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/stella-o ... -naturally
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AR3-GP wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 01:20
So the upgrades that Mclaren brought for Lando didn't work?
Andrea Stella has stated that the upgrades McLaren has brought to Bahrain are purposely for helping Lando Norris drive the MCL39 'more naturally'.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/stella-o ... -naturally
No amount of car upgrades will solve Lando's mindset.

We saw it with Danny Ric where a driver is not mentally dialled in, they will underperform.

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We do have a lot of amateur psychologists on here.

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AR3-GP wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 01:20
So the upgrades that Mclaren brought for Lando didn't work?
Andrea Stella has stated that the upgrades McLaren has brought to Bahrain are purposely for helping Lando Norris drive the MCL39 'more naturally'.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/stella-o ... -naturally
On face value they haven’t worked, the new control systems for the breaks and throttle are designed to increase driver confidence which will improve laptime- see Oscar.
It’s not as if they have brought a new aero component that hasn’t worked as expected.
Just a fan's point of view

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Ben1980 wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 20:10
mwillems wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 20:04
Emag wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:13


It's because track temps fell to 30C, pretty much the same they were at Suzuka. McLaren only has a monstrous advantage on 35C+ track temps.
They were clearly fast in FP3. The drop-off earlier today was not just tyre related.

Merc continually play themselves down but they are consistently close.

The car is faster that many give it credit for.
It's quite interesting people are ignoring the facts with Merc being consistently close and then downplaying them. Antonelli has been performing aswell and he could be my son!
I somehow missed the song comment.

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mwillems wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 10:14
Ben1980 wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 20:10
mwillems wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 20:04


They were clearly fast in FP3. The drop-off earlier today was not just tyre related.

Merc continually play themselves down but they are consistently close.

The car is faster that many give it credit for.
It's quite interesting people are ignoring the facts with Merc being consistently close and then downplaying them. Antonelli has been performing aswell and he could be my son!
I somehow missed the song comment.

Say what now??! :D
I did not have a wild romance in Northern Italy 19 years ago. It was purely an age thing. To be fair most drivers could be my son, as I'm now 45 though mine are 10 and 7.

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 20:02
CjC wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 19:53
I know the first Q3 aren’t the ones that count but what about how far ahead the 2 Mclaren boys are compared to the rest of the pack on their used tyres- discount Russell who set both of his Q3 times on a new tyres
Well that's the point. The more perceptive viewers know Mclaren is already in Jeddah. The headline times don't mean it's close.
I don't think anyone is doubting the race pace of the car. But a whole ton of people and their dogs are using the blanket term "dominant" in every session. A fast lap in an unrepresentative practise session?

Dominant!!!! #-o

The car is not dominant on one lap pace though it is the fastest, but every time the Mclaren looks fast in an FP the world goes upside down and the car is going be half a second faster in Q, or sometimes such b*llocks being posted in here.

It was abundantly clear in FP that the gap wasn't real, that Merc had plenty of one lap pace in the car, theyve been showing less in practise than us in general this tear. It's abundantly clear that Max can stop the RB behaving like an asshole then it's a contender on one lap pace.

In finding the last bit of pace the cars have become trickier to varying degrees, though in Mclarens case largely in the hands of one driver.

With Landos words biting him in the ass in the long and short term due to his inability to get his head down and just focus on the job, it's hard not to remember his attitude to Daniel Ricciardo.
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Good morning from a very hot Bahrain! Today temperature is 32 but feeling more like a 35. At race time will be around 28-30 degree so the McLaren expected strength in tire management should be more visible that yesterday.

Meanwhile, I read this interesting article from theRace (https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/wher ... en-thinks/), where I have to admit once again how kind and people oriented Andrea Stella is.

McLaren team principal Andrea Stella has played down such an idea, and has instead pointed to the issue being specifically related to how Norris and the team approach the final qualifying segment.
"It's more a phase," explained Stella, when asked by The Race what is the issue that Norris is battling.
"I think when it comes to Q3, putting together the lap that hasn't worked very well recently. But this is a short phase."
"We are talking about the driver that has led the journey of McLaren to the front, together with Oscar, and has delivered us the world championship after 26 years. It's just now, in this temporary phase in which, while pushing the car to the limit, there's a few things that don't go exactly as he expects."
"When you go for the extra one-tenth of a second in Q3, this becomes more visible. We understand what it is. It will just require a bit of adaptation from Lando himself and some adaptations from the team, but I think the understanding is good, and we are very optimistic that this will be resolved."


While Norris is blaming himself for what is going on, Stella says it would be wrong to suggest that the responsibility for getting on top of these Q3 issues is entirely down to the driver.
"We know that there's a few things we can do better to make Lando more comfortable in the car," he said.
"My approach is first of all to look in the mirror. The team should look in the mirror and say, 'What should we do better to make Lando more comfortable and put him in condition to use his incredible talent?'"


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Honestly? I’m biggest fear in F1 right now is that if Ferrari offer Stella the team principle role.
I’m sure there’s always an underlying lure for any Italian to win with Ferrari
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 12:28
Honestly? I’m biggest fear in F1 right now is that if Ferrari offer Stella the team principle role.
I’m sure there’s always an underlying lure for any Italian to win with Ferrari
Depends on what terms he left Ferrari with Alonso back in 2014. He seems committed at McLaren for the time being, but I have no idea what's his personal life view at the moment. As an Italian I would assume he would be keen on living and working in Italy, especially later on his life, but it also depends on whether he has set up a new life in the UK.
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CjC wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 12:28
Honestly? I’m biggest fear in F1 right now is that if Ferrari offer Stella the team principle role.
I’m sure there’s always an underlying lure for any Italian to win with Ferrari
He's been there, done that. Worked with Schumacher, Kimi, Fernando, won a lot of titles along the way. Besides, didn't he sign a new deal?
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
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Yea he has just signed a new deal and he seems the type to honour it.
Because he’s been such a revelation I’m hopeful for a Horner length tenure as team principle that’s all
Just a fan's point of view

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Why would Stella go and try to fix Ferrari? Stella has done a stellar job at McLaren by getting the right people and putting in the right processes and is getting all the credits and he should enjoy the success period for now.

The team as a whole is on an upward trajectory and Mercedes will mostly make a good engine next year. The immediate future looks very bright.
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