2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[godlameroso]

They've clearly taken a step forward since Canada, it's not a big step relatively speaking, but they have improved. Improving efficiency and power go hand in hand. If you get more power out of the limited fuel supply, you will need less fuel supply for a given power.

[diffuser]

I agree about the PU. It's common knowledge that Honda have work to do, it's also been acknowledged that they dont that that ignition chamber thing and I'm sure that's what they are working on next.
For me, you could see that Button would sit behind the Sauber of Nasr in normal conditions but then when the team said to all out attack ie. Turn the PU up and not to worry about fuel usage he breezed past the Sauber.
Honda and Mclarens major weakness of a weekend is fuel usage unfortunately and in the incremental steps Honda take, fuel consumption will be next in the list to tick off before out and out power, this is after they rectified last seasons major weakness- reliability.
Honda ARE getting there and WILL get there it just takes time.
In 2018 it will be a peach of a motor.

If Honda had a major problem with fuel consumption then Mclaren would struggle the most at the start of the GP and be on the pace by the end because every race the Mclaren would be brimmed while the other teams would not need to take a full tank.

This should also mean that McLaren would qualify really well and then fall back in the race.

They don't tend to saved Fuel in the first 5 or 6 laps. They start when everyone has established their positions. From what I can tell they setup the car to run at a given pace (you can even see it in FP with the long runs). on a "normal weekend", as Fernado would say, race day pace is right in line with FP long runs (typically FP2). To be honest I haven't seen much power saving in the last few races either. I though I saw it today ( his pace dropped significantly on a few occasions) but it turned out to be Battery problems.

Fernando will tend to get bored with fuel saving and pump out a couple of laps where his lap times drop by a second then he returns to fuel saving mode.

[Fulcrum]

There shouldn't have been big issues with fuel saving as a result of the safety car.

[Thunder]

Great Race from Jenson, sadly reliability Issues again for Fernando. I think the positives outweight the negatives.

From what i saw the Car is very good on the Brakes, but the lack of outright ICE Power still hurts. Both Chassis and Engine get better with every Race though.

[Jef Patat]

Great Race from Jenson, sadly reliability Issues again for Fernando. I think the positives outweight the negatives.

From what i saw the Car is very good on the Brakes, but the lack of outright ICE Power still hurts. Both Chassis and Engine get better with every Race though.

I always like the convincing confidence in a fan's voice

[Thunder]

So, how is the Weather forecast for Silverstone this Weekend? Should i look up Rain Dances on Youtube?

[Vasconia]

So, how is the Weather forecast for Silverstone this Weekend? Should i look up Rain Dances on Youtube?

Haha, you should! and I will do the same.

Alonso had a quite mediocre race which sadly ended with yet another DNF. Button was brilliant but was really the car that good yesterday? perhaps the lower temperatures and the safety car helped McLaren but I wasnt expecting such a good race.

[Thunder]

Well Vettel had an exploding Tire so that would have been P7 on Merit Yesterday. But i don't think P7 is realistic Pace wise overall (not specifically isolated to this Weekend). FI and Williams had abysmal Races.

[Andres125sx]

Alonso had a quite mediocre race which sadly ended with yet another DNF.

Mediocre? How is that when he managed to be only two positions and 3 seconds behind Button despite Button´s P3 grid position and Alonso´s p14?

Then SC came out and McLaren had to do a double pitstop wich obviously harmed Alonso, he dropped two positions again (p9 and p11 before pitstop, p9 and p13 after)

It´s been an unlucky weekend for Alonso, first in qualifying McLaren made a costly mistake in Q2 fitting used tires in his first attempt, and second was ruined by Sainz´s yellow flag wich prevented anyone from improving laptimes. Then in the race he was performing a great recovery until Button´s track position and SC made him drop back again, then the retirement.

I´d say that´s far from a mediocre race, he was doing great but he´s been unlucky the whole weekend

[GoranF1]

Alonso had a quite mediocre race which sadly ended with yet another DNF.

Mediocre? How is that when he managed to be only two positions and 3 seconds behind Button despite Button´s P3 grid position and Alonso´s p14?

Then SC came out and McLaren had to do a double pitstop wich obviously harmed Alonso, he dropped two positions again (p9 and p11 before pitstop, p9 and p13 after)

It´s been an unlucky weekend for Alonso, first in qualifying McLaren made a costly mistake in Q2 fitting used tires in his first attempt, and second was ruined by Sainz´s yellow flag wich prevented anyone from improving laptimes. Then in the race he was performing a great recovery until Button´s track position and SC made him drop back again, then the retirement.

I´d say that´s far from a mediocre race, he was doing great but he´s been unlucky the whole weekend

i agree, Fernando's pace was quite good considering ers problems...and Hasegawa confirmed that problem was worse and worse as race progressed.
In low DF circuits like Canada and Austria Button always nails his setup and even whitout Alonso problems i think Button would be hard to beat but next few races Alonso will be a beast.

[godlameroso]

Weather for Silverstone, you need a d-20 a chart with different weather conditions rain snow hell fire beautiful sunny day and pick whichever one you roll highest. But I'm going to laugh if it's a perfect dry weekend temperature in the mid 20's and hot track.

[Andres125sx]

Alonso had a quite mediocre race which sadly ended with yet another DNF.

Mediocre? How is that when he managed to be only two positions and 3 seconds behind Button despite Button´s P3 grid position and Alonso´s p14?

Then SC came out and McLaren had to do a double pitstop wich obviously harmed Alonso, he dropped two positions again (p9 and p11 before pitstop, p9 and p13 after)

It´s been an unlucky weekend for Alonso, first in qualifying McLaren made a costly mistake in Q2 fitting used tires in his first attempt, and second was ruined by Sainz´s yellow flag wich prevented anyone from improving laptimes. Then in the race he was performing a great recovery until Button´s track position and SC made him drop back again, then the retirement.

I´d say that´s far from a mediocre race, he was doing great but he´s been unlucky the whole weekend

i agree, Fernando's pace was quite good considering ers problems...and Hasegawa confirmed that problem was worse and worse as race progressed.
In low DF circuits like Canada and Austria Button always nails his setup and even whitout Alonso problems i think Button would be hard to beat but next few races Alonso will be a beast.

This is not very congruent with what you wrote on Austrian GP thread

Is Alonso "dead"...has is time passed?

And that´s not your first post on race threads similar to this, I once read a very similar post after qualifying (can´t remember what GP) when he didn´t perform, but later on suday he did an awesome race, and I was tempted to reply, but didn´t.

This time I couldn´t help myself, you look like prepared to bash Alonso as soon as posible on race threads, but then I read this here and can only wonder what do you really think about Alonso and what´s your point posting such a different opinions about him...

[Thunder]

Print it out, Frame it and hang it on the Wall. Not sure if we see anything like that again this Year....

[Vasconia]

Alonso had a quite mediocre race which sadly ended with yet another DNF.

Mediocre? How is that when he managed to be only two positions and 3 seconds behind Button despite Button´s P3 grid position and Alonso´s p14?

Then SC came out and McLaren had to do a double pitstop wich obviously harmed Alonso, he dropped two positions again (p9 and p11 before pitstop, p9 and p13 after)

It´s been an unlucky weekend for Alonso, first in qualifying McLaren made a costly mistake in Q2 fitting used tires in his first attempt, and second was ruined by Sainz´s yellow flag wich prevented anyone from improving laptimes. Then in the race he was performing a great recovery until Button´s track position and SC made him drop back again, then the retirement.

I´d say that´s far from a mediocre race, he was doing great but he´s been unlucky the whole weekend

You are right Andres, I underestimaded Alonso´s problems during the race, thinking incorrectly that the reason of his DNF was a problem which appared suddenly.

No problem to admit that I was wrong.

[godlameroso]

Battery problem...I wonder if it was hardware related, I know the new battery tech is having some teething issues particularly with dendrites forming on the cathodes.

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