Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

[API]

Because the important info came out in interviews / press conferences rather than press releases (which is more the style of the team websites), but then you're at the whim of the reporting which sometimes misses the nuances, to the point where what's fact, an informed guss and complete conjecture, is hard to disentangle. Hence if you're really interested you try to look at a whole bunch of sites, take into account their reliability, and skim the forums as well to see what else other people have found (sometimes someone kind who speaks Japanese will translate directly, instead of relying on machine translation, yes ispano6 does this sometimes if there's something particularly worth mentioning).

Anyway, maybe ispano6 could name the main few Japanese f1 sites, and how reliable they are in their opinion? That would be interesting. Probably about as reliable as the non-Japanese ones, but maybe they get the odd bit of info or quotes that aren't seen elsewhere, just wondering.

I stopped translating for this forum for several reasons. It took a nose-dive in terms of the quality of the technical talk and became a place for cry babies. Even if I did provide the sites, they would be mistranslated and misinterpretted by the same perpetrators. The fact is, these people jump to conclusions and treat fact from heresay and secondary/tertiary sources. You know the quality of the poster when they accuse Honda of not knowing what they are doing. Why are we allowing such talk on this technical forum?

If everyone had the same approach as Honda when entering F1 repeatedly, there wouldn't even be a race for the first six months.

What's happening is not a coincidence.

[diffuser]

Because the important info came out in interviews / press conferences rather than press releases (which is more the style of the team websites), but then you're at the whim of the reporting which sometimes misses the nuances, to the point where what's fact, an informed guss and complete conjecture, is hard to disentangle. Hence if you're really interested you try to look at a whole bunch of sites, take into account their reliability, and skim the forums as well to see what else other people have found (sometimes someone kind who speaks Japanese will translate directly, instead of relying on machine translation, yes ispano6 does this sometimes if there's something particularly worth mentioning).

Anyway, maybe ispano6 could name the main few Japanese f1 sites, and how reliable they are in their opinion? That would be interesting. Probably about as reliable as the non-Japanese ones, but maybe they get the odd bit of info or quotes that aren't seen elsewhere, just wondering.

I stopped translating for this forum for several reasons. It took a nose-dive in terms of the quality of the technical talk and became a place for cry babies. Even if I did provide the sites, they would be mistranslated and misinterpretted by the same perpetrators. The fact is, these people jump to conclusions and treat fact from heresay and secondary/tertiary sources. You know the quality of the poster when they accuse Honda of not knowing what they are doing. Why are we allowing such talk on this technical forum?

If everyone had the same approach as Honda when entering F1 repeatedly, there wouldn't even be a race for the first six months.

What's happening is not a coincidence.

I think that there is a good chance that people are jumping to conclusions. There is a strong possibilities that the vibrations are indirectly caused by Newey joining late. Newey joining late could NOT be helped. That then led to the late changes that then led to the vibrations. Then are taking what was said by Honda about the combustion as a given that the PU is down on power by a lot. There is no evidence of that they are low on power. They have not even tried to run the PU at full power nor have they tried to tune it to get the max out of it. That all comes out of the vibrations which in turn have caused the perfect storm that held everything else back. Think we need to wait and see.

[API]

Shown is valid!!!

I'm not saying that everything is
Honda's fault.
But she definitely wasn't ready.

Hopefully they'll make it available for purchase soon.
Finally, if they use AUDUO, it will be clear.

[diffuser]

Shown is valid!!!

I'm not saying that everything is
Honda's fault.
But she definitely wasn't ready.

Hopefully they'll make it available for purchase soon.
Finally, if they use AUDUO, it will be clear.

you ether didn't read what I wrote or didn't understand it. so repeat it here and clear it up. ..

I think there is a good chance that people are jumping to conclusions. There is a strong possibility that the vibrations are indirectly caused by Newey joining late. His late arrival could not be helped. He then made changes later in the process, which may have led a quick change by Honda and then to the vibrations.

People are also taking what Honda said about the combustion as proof that the power unit is significantly down on power compared to other teams. However, there is no evidence that they are low on power. They have not even tried to run the PU at full power, nor have they attempted to tune it to get the maximum performance out of it.

So, the late changes may have led to vibrations, which in turn created the perfect storm: very little running, which held everything else back. I think we need to wait and see.

At any rate it isn't gonna change anything to point fingers at Honda.

[mzso]

People are also taking what Honda said about the combustion as proof that the power unit is significantly down on power compared to other teams. However, there is no evidence that they are low on power. They have not even tried to run the PU at full power, nor have they attempted to tune it to get the maximum performance out of it.

I think Newey saying they are low on power counts as evidence.