Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

[peewon]

There was always a fuel supplier that was light years ahead of the rest.
Also it is very hard to just make F1 fuel from scratch like AM-Honda fuel supplier is doing.
Honda will tell them what they want but can a first grader make it?

Aramco is the most field tested supplier of synthetic fuel on the grid considering they supplied it for F2 and has been validated by F2 teams as extremely close to the normal fuel. The only amateurs here are the original team that Honda put together for this project.

[GhostF1]

Which, IMHO, makes the Aramco fuel being a problem even less likely.

Agreed entirely. Honda made a lot of noise about coming up with the optimum composition for it's engine in the last regs at Sakura and the fact it used unconventional molecules, then gave that to Mobil who approved it and started manufacturing it. So they are very much involved in the fuel, so it's quite unlikely we have a fuel issue. Especially when we have a clear and candid picture of where Honda believe they lost performance in the ICE with these regs.

Could you explain the logic behind the idea that fuel cannot be a problem simply because Honda is involved in fuel development? How can you assume absolute success in the realm of fuel when Honda—a company specializing in mechanics—can still fail in the engine department? How do you manage that?

I'm simply saying that to me, it is unlikely to be the ROOT CAUSE (as is being implied on here) to Honda's issues... And that is simply because Honda has been candid about the fact the regulation changes nerfed their engine design, combustion process and energy management expertise and that their lack of high tier personnel early on upon returning hindered their ability to find ICE performance down other avenues. They have since claimed they know what path they need to go down for the 2027 engine and that there is only so much they can do with this years one, Orihara went on to say any further 2026 PU updates would only appear if the learnings could be applied to the revised 2027 PU.

The fuel being the MAIN problem has no base other than a suggestion on this forum. There are no reports, no technical information, no comments from Honda or Aramco or Aston Martin, it is a closely guarded secret and they themselves probably have no idea how their fuel compares to the other suppliers. while I won't totally disregard it being a part of a larger issue, it being the golden ticket is really just theoretical at best, which is great for discussion on here, but it is no longer being discussed, it is being aggressively pedalled as the truth and rebutted with confirmation-bias AI prompts and now more amusingly, we have some members claiming the only reason it hasn't been mentioned by Honda as a weakness is because they are afraid of the Saudi's... lmao. This is getting ridiculous now, actually comical, so it seems fairly logical why I, or indeed a large amount of members on here, have some trepidation about its validity.