2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

[djones]

I thought the new tests for the rear wing were a few races ago. Have there been more changes to the testing for here?

You are correct, but what the other user was saying, was that teams have not had to run maximum downforce wings since before the new tests were put in place.

Ah ok, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

[HungarianRacer]

I thought the new tests for the rear wing were a few races ago. Have there been more changes to the testing for here?

You are correct, but what the other user was saying, was that teams have not had to run maximum downforce wings since before the new tests where put in place.

Correct, thank you.

[zibby43]

I think the new rear tire construction from Pirelli (and subsequent lower pressures) is something the W12 enjoys.

[RZS10]

They also had the 20% tolerance up to and including the second race in Austria, Silverstone was the first one without any tolerance but obviously not highDF.

[Marty_Y]

I think the new rear tire construction from Pirelli (and subsequent lower pressures) is something the W12 enjoys.

Both long run and qualification simulation pace looks very good, and it's only going to get better tomorrow when they turn up the PU for qualification!

I'm naturally a pessimist but I've got a feeling that Mercedes could be 1-2 on the podium on Sunday.

[NathanOlder]

I thought the new tests for the rear wing were a few races ago. Have there been more changes to the testing for here?

You are correct, but what the other user was saying, was that teams have not had to run maximum downforce wings since before the new tests where put in place.

And dont forget in qualy where you can use DRS on the longest straight here, the flexi wings wouldn't save as much in qualy as they would in the race. It will be interesting to see the top speeds without DRS.

[NathanOlder]

I think the new rear tire construction from Pirelli (and subsequent lower pressures) is something the W12 enjoys.

Both long run and qualification simulation pace looks very good, and it's only going to get better tomorrow when they turn up the PU for qualification!

I'm naturally a pessimist but I've got a feeling that Mercedes could be 1-2 on the podium on Sunday.

Lets wait and see what the weather does first. If its wet, the 77 will be fighting the 63 for 9th or 10th.

[godlameroso]

It's not likely to rain, on Sunday, and only a little more on Saturday, but it will be hotter, count on it.

[Sieper]

Max was interviewed by ziggo and thought if they could improve the set up issues (which would be doable) it could be very close but he thought Mercedes would have the upper hand here in quali (the question was about the quali chances).

[PlatinumZealot]

Red Bull was suffering from understeer. Let's see if they can overcome their setup problems tomorrow and win as usual.

Since the track is front limited this is really bad news for them. They will have to squeeze in a mini race sim tomorrow to fix it. FP3 will be very revealing in regard to who has the overall advantage.

[zibby43]

I think the new rear tire construction from Pirelli (and subsequent lower pressures) is something the W12 enjoys.

Both long run and qualification simulation pace looks very good, and it's only going to get better tomorrow when they turn up the PU for qualification!

I'm naturally a pessimist but I've got a feeling that Mercedes could be 1-2 on the podium on Sunday.

I think the time to optimize the upgrades has helped massively. I suspected the package would be more effective in a higher downforce configuration.

What’s encouraging is that Hamilton seems to think there is plenty more to come.

[Just_a_fan]

You do understand the level of drag required for 10kph difference right? Besides, Mercedes is running their usual barn door here, compared to Red Bull's relatively trimmed version. The 10kph difference was observable in long runs too. While Lewis was clocking 296kph on straights, Max was doing 286kph as observed on their respective laps when there was no toe effect.

Drag increases with the square of velocity.

Power absorbed by drag increases with the cube of velocity.

Rear wing is only a small part of a car's total drag and thus the rear wing is only a small part of the total power absorption.

Rear wing is a useful but not conclusive indicator of engine power used.

So...

I can read better articles on Internet than that. But hey.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 1eJny.html

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg

https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... on-friday/

GPS analysis of the Mercedes and Red Bull showed that the latter was losing almost 0.5s to the Mercedes on the straights and making up only around 0.25s of that through the slow- and medium-speed corners. But this was with a mismatch in how bad the balance was between the two cars – and with a Honda power unit setting which appeared to be more conservative than that of Mercedes.

So...

Sorry, I was being technical because that's what I thought you wanted.

[JPower]

I remember Pirelli said teams would recover the downforce from the new floor regs but I don't think they got close. The way drivers are attacking T4 this year makes them look like they're in F2 cars compared to last year.

[Ryar]

Drag increases with the square of velocity.

Power absorbed by drag increases with the cube of velocity.

Rear wing is only a small part of a car's total drag and thus the rear wing is only a small part of the total power absorption.

Rear wing is a useful but not conclusive indicator of engine power used.

So...

I can read better articles on Internet than that. But hey.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 1eJny.html

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg

https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... on-friday/

GPS analysis of the Mercedes and Red Bull showed that the latter was losing almost 0.5s to the Mercedes on the straights and making up only around 0.25s of that through the slow- and medium-speed corners. But this was with a mismatch in how bad the balance was between the two cars – and with a Honda power unit setting which appeared to be more conservative than that of Mercedes.

So...

Sorry, I was being technical because that's what I thought you wanted.

I absolutely trust your technical understanding.

[JPBD1990]

Ferrari looks nowhere. Hard to believe they’re legitimately behind the Aston’s and Alpine’s though? Time will tell.