I don't think anyone here really cares. The important thing was the pace they showed after their new setup direction and the small upgrade that they brought here. They haven't really had that before. If they keep going in this direction, then today won't matter. If they slump again, then today still won't matter.CjC wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:29Gary Anderson has perplexed me with his view here:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/our- ... e-annoyed/
A 5 second penalty out of the blue?? Was he not watching the end of last season?
What do you guys make of his opinion?
First lap incidents used to not be judged to the letter. It all come back to when british pundits last year started a cry campaign against Verstappen in order to boost Norris's chance in the championship.CjC wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:29Gary Anderson has perplexed me with his view here:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/our- ... e-annoyed/
A 5 second penalty out of the blue?? Was he not watching the end of last season?
What do you guys make of his opinion?
I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:36I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
He could have done it right after T2.PierreW wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:39I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:36I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
Great analysis as usually, a good weekend I would say.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:36I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
Has the letter changed though?PierreW wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:33First lap incidents used to not be judged to the letter. It all come back to when british pundits last year started a cry campaign against Verstappen in order to boost Norris's chance in the championship.CjC wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:29Gary Anderson has perplexed me with his view here:
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/our- ... e-annoyed/
A 5 second penalty out of the blue?? Was he not watching the end of last season?
What do you guys make of his opinion?
In no universe Max gifts a position, the team should have told him to do so if they wanted, but Marko and Horner said they expected it to be a no penalty based on similar incidents in F2.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:41He could have done it right after T2.PierreW wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:39I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:36I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
Of course I know that is not Max's instincts or nature
So people just think Mclaren is running the car lower as opposed to any clever aerodynamic design?