2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

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the speed are top notch , and mclaren runing a big rear wing comppared to redbull, and with that the speed are awesome, i think the honda power is above renault or at least on level with renaults, i only wish that mclaren had a redbull like chassis then everyting will be great

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techman wrote:the speed are top notch , and mclaren runing a big rear wing comppared to redbull, and with that the speed are awesome, i think the honda power is above renault or at least on level with renaults, i only wish that mclaren had a redbull like chassis then everyting will be great
risking to sound like a broken record:

-Honda say they are behind, so they are
-The rear wing is not the only drag-inducing device on a car. Redbull are known to extract a lot of downforce from non-wing aero. This means their "base drag" without the wings is likely quite high.

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well the performance in the track and top speeds show how good the honda engine compared to renault engine, even with a overated chassis like mclaren

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gianluca.mateo wrote: -Honda say they are behind, so they are
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Haas is gonna be a huge issue this weekend

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mrluke wrote:If Mclarens problem was fuel saving then they would be slow at the start of the race (carrying more fuel than rivals) and fast at the end of the race (no more weight penalty). I am not convinced we have seen this.

Personally if I was Mclaren and I knew that we had an under performing power unit, I would be targeting the low power/high downforce tracks as my opportunity to get a really good result rather than ignoring these tracks and focusing on the ones that I will do really badly at.

Glad to see the forum coming around to "maybe it isn't all Honda's fault."

I cant wait to see how Mclaren get on at Monza, im guessing people will be surprised by their good performance 8)
If you need to fuel save. you'll go parts of the race where you race normally(when defending or of if you see an opportunity to pass) then you'll go into sections where you'll lift and coast instead of braking. Races tend to be in tighter confines at the beginning of the race so you have to defend more or attempt to pass more. This leaves a driver with a greater percentage of fuel saving later in the race.

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techman wrote:the speed are top notch , and mclaren runing a big rear wing comppared to redbull, and with that the speed are awesome, i think the honda power is above renault or at least on level with renaults, i only wish that mclaren had a redbull like chassis then everyting will be great

Maybe it's "Ricciardo: Renault on par with Ferrari" http://www.planetf1.com/news/ricciardo- ... h-ferrari/?

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Kalun wrote:Who do you guys think will replace Fernando Alonso if he retires after 2017 ? Jenson Button won't be driving for Mclaren by the end of this year and Stoffel Vandoorne will be replacing Jenson.

Mclaren have a very high standard for young drivers program and Stoffel have exceeded the standard. I don't thing Nyck de Vries will be replacing Fernando. He didn't do well in GP3 series. Same goes to Nobuharu Matsushita (Honda young driver).
Why would McLaren replace a driver who is keeping Alonso honest with a driver who is currently 9th in the 3rd tier formula he is currently racing in?

http://superformula.net/sf/en/race/2016/standings/

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techman wrote:the speed are top notch , and mclaren runing a big rear wing comppared to redbull, and with that the speed are awesome, i think the honda power is above renault or at least on level with renaults, i only wish that mclaren had a redbull like chassis then everyting will be great
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stevesingo wrote:Why would McLaren replace a driver who is keeping Alonso honest with a driver who is currently 9th in the 3rd tier formula he is currently racing in?

http://superformula.net/sf/en/race/2016/standings/
:lol: srsly?

You mean the guy who fought for the GP2 title in ihis first year, dominated GP2 in his second and final year there?

A guy who's currently ninth in his first SuperFormula year, despite having to adjust to a very different culture and a DNF caused by a high speed brake failure.
Not to forget he's already earned a pole position and a podium within his first four races there and also got into the points on his F1 debut as a stand-in on short notice?

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Wow, Honda has really made a difference it seems...no more at the bottom of the speed chart, Button is even in the top ten.
Very happy for both mclaren and Honda. Gives me hope for next year
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Ferrari and Merc having to use DRS to pass Jenson on the straight.
Considering how skinny wing Redbull are running and McLaren using a normal wing, Honda seems to be faster on the speed trap. Very encouraging indeed.

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BeardedAce wrote:Ferrari and Merc having to use DRS to pass Jenson on the straight.
Considering how skinny wing Redbull are running and McLaren using a normal wing, Honda seems to be faster on the speed trap. Very encouraging indeed.
Does seem encouraging. Fernando's long run pace on the Soft didn't look great though. Guess we will have to see how Button compared on the SS on his first stint.

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If Mclaren can enter Q3 tomorrow it will be a superb result
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Bottas stints on SS and S
15 1:27.544
16 1:27.511
17 1:27.607
18 1:27.553
19 1:27.830
20 1:27.718
21 1:28.051
22 1:28.813
23 1:28.636
24 1:29.218
25 P 1:34.846
26 5:18.985
27 1:27.558
28 1:27.477
29 1:27.512
30 1:27.450
31 1:27.481
32 1:27.975
33 1:27.381
34 1:28.668
35 1:27.304
36 1:27.302
37 1:27.201
38 1:27.197
39 1:27.283
40 1:27.252

Button on SS and M
10 1:28.772
11 1:28.451
12 1:28.562
13 1:28.708
14 1:28.354
15 1:28.874
16 1:28.621
17 1:29.125
18 1:29.862
19 P 1:34.036
20 1:51.942
21 1:29.220
22 1:30.013
23 1:29.236
24 1:28.980
25 1:29.821
26 1:29.318
27 1:34.994
28 P 1:48.375

The Williams seems to have great race pace. Points might be difficult come Sunday.