2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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venkyhere wrote:
10 May 2026, 10:20
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10 May 2026, 08:13
AR3-GP wrote:I was going to post this earlier, because something struck me about the way that Verstappen was driving in Miami. The braking. He's braked so late that it was Monday. It wasn't just one time, it was every single chance he got. We didn't see this in Australia, China, or Japan. Braking seems to be a strong point, suddenly, where it was not before. He was coming from miles back. It looked like everyone else was braking early. It reminded me of the SF24.



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I think it has something to do with that new rear wing, among other things.
Maybe an effect of the new front suspension? Max mentioned he could trust the car more to do what he wants. Sounds like this could be what he meant.

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RB22 has lower anti dive compared to RB21 too. That along with macarena air brake is surely helping.
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I would also say that the steering behaving as max expects is probably allowing him to live on the edge more

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Where will Verstappen take the second PU? Canada? Barcelona? Austria?
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AR3-GP wrote:
10 May 2026, 14:57
Where will Verstappen take the second PU? Canada? Barcelona? Austria?
I was thinking that maybe they are expect to get a chance to make an upgrade via ADUO?
If so, then after Canada, I guess.

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What would Jonathan Wheatley be doing at the Historic French GP with Mekies and Permane? A social visit?
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"Yes, I think there will be another step. I don't know when, but we will have a weight reduction maybe for Austria." This should make Red Bull gradually more competitive, although Waché is above all satisfied that the difficult opening phase of the season now seems to be behind us. The technical director felt the pressure of having to turn a difficult situation around, and it seems that the first step has been taken.

"It's not easy, and I'm certainly disappointed with the result. I think the result [in Miami] doesn't show our pace. But it's good for the team to show that the car has pace and that we're back in the game."
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Same quote from the Sunday of the race

With a clean race max was essentially guaranteed p3 really, so yeah p5 wasn't the pace of the car. I wouldn't take his quote to mean anything but that

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"We're only at the beginning of this new regulation cycle, and the development curve is very steep, so we expected McLaren, with a significant update package, to gain even half a second," Wolff told La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"I have to say that Red Bull was a big surprise because they made a huge step forward, going from more than a second behind the leader to being right there at the front, fighting with Verstappen."

Red Bull team principal Laurent Mekies confirmed the significance of the upgrade, revealing the team had arrived in Japan and China over a second adrift of pole position.

"We left Japan 1.2 seconds away from pole, China 1.0 seconds away from pole," Mekies told media, including RacingNews365.

"So to see us this weekend qualifying six tenths away from pole on Friday and less than two tenths away from pole on Saturday is a big indication of the size of our progress."
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We just have to hope that the upgrades are as expected in Canada, austria and whenever the rest of the Europe package comes (likely silverstone)

I wouldn't get carried away. Mclaren and merc will leap forward again at Canada

I think the one thing we can hope for is that the second weight drop will deliver the improvement in tyre wear and driveability/predictability that the first weight drop did at Miami.

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we do not give, at the moment, a consistent car to our drivers, a car they can push with confidence, lap to lap, corner to corner."

"That was most of the work that has been done in these five weeks' break, in addition to the normal development. So yes, there is a split between the two, whatever the number, whatever the split is. But of course, it was tangible. It is lap time."

"We knew we were losing a serious amount of lap time with that lack of confidence that drivers would have in the car. So steering one was an aspect. We had quite a few other aspects as well, and we still have a few to sort out."
So, these remaining aspects being fixed should bring some lap time too. Catching up to Merc will depend on how much time their new package will bring, if it was like Ferrari's last and the leap is not massive then RBR can be competitive earlier.

But there will still be that 0.2-0.3s PU handicap for the rest of the season if they don't get to upgrade the engine, and there's been no noise around that so far, Ferrari are already planning a new PU for Spa. RBR doesn't seem too confident that they'll qualify for ADUO.

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organic wrote:
12 May 2026, 19:46
We just have to hope that the upgrades are as expected in Canada, austria and whenever the rest of the Europe package comes (likely silverstone)

I wouldn't get carried away. Mclaren and merc will leap forward again at Canada

I think the one thing we can hope for is that the second weight drop will deliver the improvement in tyre wear and driveability/predictability that the first weight drop did at Miami.
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Haven't heard much further on the rumoured suspension changes

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I am smelling a Max podium here in Canada...

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He’ll probably win it. With all the upgrade talk about the Mercedes and McLaren upgrades I wouldn’t put it past Max to usurp them all
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Not possible. If ever there was a track that will highlight the superiority of the 'efficiency of energy flow' (which includes the ICE raw power advantage + algorithm maturity) that the Mercedes engine has over the field, it is the Canadian track. With a weight disadvantage and a PU that is not yet fully optimized, the Redbull cannot win it.
Unless, there is rain that reduces the PU disparity and/or some lucky safety car.