Mercedes W15

A place to discuss the characteristics of the cars in Formula One, both current as well as historical. Laptimes, driver worshipping and team chatter do not belong here.
Venturiation
Venturiation
98
Joined: 04 Jan 2023, 19:48

Re: Mercedes W15

Post


User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

Better comparison images of new suspension locations. Significantly lower in 2nd pic. Interesting

Dr_obbs on twitter for photos

Image

Image

User avatar
Vanja #66
1572
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

Wow, that's not what you want to do unless you aren't sure what to expect from your suspension :shock: Compliance alert, code red level 5 :shock:
AeroGimli.x

And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

User avatar
kenshi_blind
1
Joined: 19 Mar 2021, 13:35
Location: Cape Town

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

The launch renders did show 2 different pick up points and two suspension arm so it seems it was well planned before testing. not sure how is that an alert code red level 5 and whatnot :wtf: ](*,)
Last edited by kenshi_blind on 23 Feb 2024, 13:14, edited 2 times in total.

f1rules
f1rules
597
Joined: 11 Jan 2004, 15:34
Location: Denmark

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

but its incredible smart that they can do, instead of building in a flaw that cant be changed the whole year, incredible if they made it modular

User avatar
kenshi_blind
1
Joined: 19 Mar 2021, 13:35
Location: Cape Town

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

f1rules wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 13:13
but its incredible smart that they can do, instead of building in a flaw that cant be changed the whole year, incredible if they made it modular
Agreed ,seems like a clever way to go testing and learning which development path to pursue

User avatar
Holm86
247
Joined: 10 Feb 2010, 03:37
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

f1rules wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 13:13
but its incredible smart that they can do, instead of building in a flaw that cant be changed the whole year, incredible if they made it modular
Definitely a good idea, seems like they're testing what amount of anti dive is needed, or maybe they've thought about it being track specific, if its a balance between anti dive behavior and aero, faster tracks with less braking zones might benefit more from the aero advantage than the anti dive advantage

Luscion
Luscion
99
Joined: 13 Feb 2023, 01:37

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

f1rules wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 13:13
but its incredible smart that they can do, instead of building in a flaw that cant be changed the whole year, incredible if they made it modular
agreed, seems like the renders were showing it the entire time

Image

Marble
Marble
23
Joined: 11 Mar 2017, 22:30

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

some more angles :


Luscion
Luscion
99
Joined: 13 Feb 2023, 01:37

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

Wonder if Merc are planning to go to slimmer sidepods


User avatar
prox
1
Joined: 29 Aug 2019, 13:08

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

I don't think the adjustable suspension is a new thing, I can remember a long wheel based McLaren had moveable front suspension, so they could set it up for different tracks. Monaco inparticular was one track they would reduce the wheel base by moving the suspension backwards.

User avatar
Holm86
247
Joined: 10 Feb 2010, 03:37
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

prox wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 16:36
I don't think the adjustable suspension is a new thing, I can remember a long wheel based McLaren had moveable front suspension, so they could set it up for different tracks. Monaco inparticular was one track they would reduce the wheel base by moving the suspension backwards.
If i remember correctly it was Mercedes also, and it was not adjustable suspension, or modular like this.
It was track specific front wishbones used for Monaco only that pulled the front wheels slightly back

Venturiation
Venturiation
98
Joined: 04 Jan 2023, 19:48

Re: Mercedes W15

Post




CaribouBread
CaribouBread
101
Joined: 29 Mar 2022, 08:37

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

Venturiation wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:51
...
The changeable front susp. is a fun thing but I have a niggling thought, shouldn't they have a solid idea what to go with even before they turn a lap - both on kinematics and aero effects? This surely isn't going to be change from race to race. I don't like that they're still looking for a direction on the front susp. - doesn't inspire confidence in my opinion. :?

User avatar
Zynerji
110
Joined: 27 Jan 2016, 16:14

Re: Mercedes W15

Post

CaribouBread wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:55
Venturiation wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:51
...
The changeable front susp. is a fun thing but I have a niggling thought, shouldn't they have a solid idea what to go with even before they turn a lap - both on kinematics and aero effects? This surely isn't going to be change from race to race. I don't like that they're still looking for a direction on the front susp. - doesn't inspire confidence in my opinion. :?
I expect the adjustable part would be replaced after FP3 with a "solid" part that weighs less. Like a 3d printed bushing.