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SectorOne wrote:
Juzh wrote:Webber beat alonso in F3000 as well. Does this now make him better than him? We all know the answer to that one.
Different teams.
And what's your excuse for senna/brundle situation?

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Edited my post, but different teams.
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece of sh*t"

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Kansas wrote:
scotty86 wrote:I think it is important to perhaps not jump the gun over broadcast team radio messages, which is where i've seen a lot of PDR's complaints take place. It's not like the team radio messages really show everything, and i think we could all agree that it's pretty likely that all drivers go off at their teams sometimes when they are frustrated, it's just that we happened to catch PDR doing it on team radio.

That said, back to the OP, i agree, i cannot find myself 'warming to him' either... i just haven't found his personality endearing over the many interviews and such that i've seen him in. But i do like him as a driver, i think he is very good. Rarely has a bad race, and come to think of it, his consistency is utterly amazing, right up there with Alonso and co - i can't think of many times at all in F1 where he's made driving errors.
consistency is amazing??? even on parr with alonso??

is that the reason why he hasn't beat any single teammate so far??
He is consistent. I never said he was the quickest driver or anything. #-o FYI i rate Hulkenburg much more highly.

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Looks like some of his team are getting a bit fed up with his attitude and comments

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/force ... criticism/

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010010011010 wrote:Looks like some of his team are getting a bit fed up with his attitude and comments

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/force ... criticism/
Doesn't surprise me, especially when a dunderhead like me can see what appears to be a bad attitude and a relationship problem.

It was a decent drive on Sunday by DiResta though.

I doubt it will be the last we hear of this.

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JimClarkFan wrote:
010010011010 wrote:Looks like some of his team are getting a bit fed up with his attitude and comments

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/force ... criticism/
Doesn't surprise me, especially when a dunderhead like me can see what appears to be a bad attitude and a relationship problem.

It was a decent drive on Sunday by DiResta though.

I doubt it will be the last we hear of this.
And if we don't I'm sure you'll invent something else now that you've decided to plough through this image creation exercise. You're even throwing him a bone with "decent drive". OK let's assume DiResta is an a..hole. Now what of it?

Let me get this straight and let's use popular and well published example, Hamilton:
- when he has two bad stops in 2012 he and the team can be unhappy with mechanic's performance, internet crowd can call for heads and McLaren can replaces pitstop guy, it's perfectly OK, right?
- when team puts him on not quite optimal strategy he can shout you've ruined my race, and internet crowd can call for strategy guy's head, right?
- when McLaren in not fast enough, he can complain, talk all day about Red Bull's downforce level and ostentatiously visit RB after the race, and internet crowd can call for Whitmarsh's head.

But when Force India makes a mistake DiResta can't be unhappy about, Force India can't make adjustments, a driver is being painted as a pantomime villain and internet crowd calls for D.DiR's head, is this how it works?
Cam wrote:[...]
If you think DiResta is awesome - don't be lazy, do some work, draw some graphs, set some tables, compare results and lay it out so others can see it. Like wise for opposing views. Otherwise to quote mosts mum's favourite singer - consider - "you say it best, when you say nothing at all"
Lazy, tables, graphs? What are you talking about? Watch races and draw your own conclusions. Off the top of my head:
- first half of the 2011 season - delivering straight away part
- Australia 2012, Canada 2012 - for "crafty driver" part
- overall excellent performance: Singapore &Monza (was it last season I don't remember), Bahrain 2012 and just about every race this season

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iotar__ wrote: And if we don't I'm sure you'll invent something else now that you've decided to plough through this image creation exercise. You're even throwing him a bone with "decent drive". OK let's assume DiResta is an a..hole. Now what of it?

Let me get this straight and let's use popular and well published example, Hamilton:
- when he has two bad stops in 2012 he and the team can be unhappy with mechanic's performance, internet crowd can call for heads and McLaren can replaces pitstop guy, it's perfectly OK, right?
- when team puts him on not quite optimal strategy he can shout you've ruined my race, and internet crowd can call for strategy guy's head, right?
- when McLaren in not fast enough, he can complain, talk all day about Red Bull's downforce level and ostentatiously visit RB after the race, and internet crowd can call for Whitmarsh's head.

Goodness me.

A quote from David Coultard: defacto mentor of DiResta

''There were also good, stand-out performances from Force India's Paul Di Resta, coming from 17th to take seventh, and Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne, who converted his excellent seventh place in qualifying to a sixth in the race.

Di Resta had a great race - and he needed it, because there was the general feeling in the paddock that the understandable frustration he expressed in his BBC TV interview at getting the timing wrong in a difficult wet qualifying session was one criticism too far in a team environment.

Paul's comments on Saturday are a good life lesson to all the drivers that sometimes it's least said, quickest mended. There is a way of making your point without damaging the relationship with the team.''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22845247


Turns out it wasn't just me who thought it was a step to far.

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Here you go with a soap opera:
Fernley backs di Resta after criticism
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/192242/1/f ... icism.html

"What he said probably came across worse than it actually was,” "We don't take offence the way people may think we do because we know him and he is a part of our family."
"With Paul, what you see is what you get. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and when he's not happy, you know he's not happy. But on a day-to-day basis he is a delight to work with, and he's just as hard on himself as he is on anybody else because he's looking for perfection all the time."

"He is driving exceptionally well,” "I watched him on Friday (in practice) and it was an absolute pleasure to see him and the team working together the way they did. There were some five-lap runs which were sensational, absolutely sensational. On Saturday we unfortunately took a step back, but in the race we delivered again, so yes, he is really on top of his game at the moment."

The only irritating thing around DiResta is one-sided journalism that goes way beyond backing your local driver. I read an article some time ago that basically ignored second part of the 2011 season when Sutil was better, literally brushing it aside with something about bad strategy in one race. Like it never existed because it didn't fit hagiographic approach. You can't blame a driver for that.

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He is working on his PR front, it has now changed from blaming the team to 'us' in the last few interviews.

I think he is beginning to realise that he is the front man, and the leader and needs to act as such.

I'm glad to see it, and I applaud the effort =D>

This will surely make him more attractive to the top teams, especially considering his recent good performances, I think it is likely he ends up in a top team at some point in his career.

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I enjoyed him forcing his way past the camera at the end of Q1.
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He has been very unlucky this season, I'm starting to feel a bit bad for him actually because much of it isn't his fault.

I was just thinking this morning when I seen all the Tifosi out at monza, that there are no Italians on the grid. Of course bbc then runs a piece on Paul diresta. I knew diresta had Italian heritage but I didn't know that he was so close to that heritage. I always felt that he would be a good driver for the second seat at Ferrari, now I feel he would be a great fit.

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JimClarkFan wrote:He has been very unlucky this season, I'm starting to feel a bit bad for him actually because much of it isn't his fault.

I was just thinking this morning when I seen all the Tifosi out at monza, that there are no Italians on the grid. Of course bbc then runs a piece on Paul diresta. I knew diresta had Italian heritage but I didn't know that he was so close to that heritage. I always felt that he would be a good driver for the second seat at Ferrari, now I feel he would be a great fit.
You have to wonder just how much the BBC timed that peice to coincide with Ferrari wondering if he would be a good fit or not.

And yeh, more bad luck this race too, a break failure. That's not going to make him confident on the breaks like you need to be here.

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beelsebob wrote:
JimClarkFan wrote:He has been very unlucky this season, I'm starting to feel a bit bad for him actually because much of it isn't his fault.

I was just thinking this morning when I seen all the Tifosi out at monza, that there are no Italians on the grid. Of course bbc then runs a piece on Paul diresta. I knew diresta had Italian heritage but I didn't know that he was so close to that heritage. I always felt that he would be a good driver for the second seat at Ferrari, now I feel he would be a great fit.
You have to wonder just how much the BBC timed that peice to coincide with Ferrari wondering if he would be a good fit or not.

And yeh, more bad luck this race too, a break failure. That's not going to make him confident on the breaks like you need to be here.
Lol - the thought crossed my mind.

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010010011010 wrote:Looks like some of his team are getting a bit fed up with his attitude and comments

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/force ... criticism/
Doesn't surprise me. I have been willing to give di Resta the benefit of the doubt but he's getting on my nerves. He's looked a decent driver but nowhere near as good as those on the BBC like Eddie Jordan and di Resta's own attitude want to make out. Certainly, when you compare him to Hulkenberg or his team mate Sutil he's certainly not better than either.

I just feel the promotion of himself, and those around him, and the attitude that seems to go with that is getting out of control and they don't match his overinflated opinion of his own talent. I'm beginning to see why he fell out with Anthony Hamilton.

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In my book die restas perception is it is him who drags the car into positions it does not deserve to inherit-but he completely ignores the fact FI has matured incredibly and it´s up to the driver´s now to make strong points finishes weekend after weekend.
Just look no further than his old teammate Hulkenberg who did not allow himself to bad mouth the team at any time this year even though it was a complete mess with reliabilty issues and a generel disappointment in terms of speed and consistency of the car /tyre combo.Even when sauber could not pay his salary he just covered the legal issues and refused to comment on the rest -a true pro ...keeping open all doors to cash in when a rare moment of competitiveness is in the car -he has the team behind him and he delivers 100% of what is possible on the day and not forgetting to praise the team for the effort afterwards as well...very commendable and surely a very convincing sign to any team searching for a strong addition to their driver lineup...
di Resta unfortunatelly has chosen a route coming across not so positive .and not effective as well.No wonder it does go easy with erratic race performances..he has to step back and rethink his attitude maybe.