Does anyone remember any other drivers getting boo'd?

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Stradivarius wrote:
iotar__ wrote:[to be clear, I'm not really commenting on booing itself but on on silly comparisons]
Ouch, was I really that unclear? Let me clarify for you then: When you are presented a comparison, you will never find that absolutely everything is identical, unless something is compared by itself (in which case it can hardly be called a comparison). So when interpreting a comparison, you need to look for the similarities and not for the differences, if you struggle to make sense of it.

In this case, I can give you one hint that might help you understand the comparison: Both formula 1 and opera normally requires the audience to pay for their tickets. The purpose of this comparison is not to argue that formula 1 and opera is almost the same thing. The purpose is to make it clear that paying for the ticket to an event, doesn't necessarily mean that you are entitled to behave exactly the way you feel like at all times. Here I was refering to booing, in case that wasn't clear to you.
You made perfect sense, he is acting how he normally acts

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CHT wrote:Who are the people who behind the booing?
Are they fans from a particular team?

Ferrari has a strong fan base in Singapore and I saw Alonso ginning from left to right.
I suspect its from these group.
Regular folks. The people you can for sure say are not booing is Vettel fans.
I don´t think it´s because he´s simply winning either, i think it´s sort of personal rather then Red Bull success.

He seems to handle it well though.
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tim|away wrote:I can appreciate that there has always been boo'ing against other drivers in the past, but it still feels as if the recent boo'ing has taken it a bit further than what we've seen before.
100%
Alonso received booes after Singapore, but only right after, not 6 months later, not after a flawless drive.
Schumacher received booes after Austria 2002, but only right after, not 6 months later, not after a flawless drive.
In ~20 years, this is the first it is happening to this extent.

It is also completely futile from a fan's perspective: they're not making any point.
They're not telling drivers they expect them to honor team-orders, because they accept, if not celebrate, it with other drivers.
They're not telling drivers they don't like alleged favoritism in a team, because they accept, if not celebrate, it with other drivers.
etc.
etc.
etc.

The boo bus is nothing but a boollshit bus.

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SectorOne wrote:And it´s not just one country, it doesn´t matter where on the planet they are, they "all" seem to feel the same about that particular incident.
I know this is pure perception, but I can tell you that the comment sections in most German Motorsports sites are filled with negative comments which have nothing to do with Malaysia. Let it be 20%, if at all, that's Malaysia related.

The rest of the comments is about things as hair style, looks, envy, finger, being a spoiled kid that gets to drive a newey car, Karthikeyan cucumber etc.

The Malaysia incident is mostly brought up in the context of "it was right to do it, look where Webber now lurks around...."

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Very unsportive to do so. Unfortunaly most sports are having this problems. I remember supporters of our national belgian soccer team booing for the national anthem of the opponents. Very disrespectful.

Italy seems to have the biggest problem in F1; I can't remember the last time when a non-ferrari driver wasn't boo'd for winning the Italian GP. Alonso had that problem, Hamilton, Vettel, I even believe Heinz-Harald Frenzen get the same treatment in 1999.
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Nice fella? He's arogant narcissist with his idiotic finger. Nice fella in Malaysia? And don't like him and I'd boo him as well!

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WhiteBlue wrote:It is called a celebration. It is extremely unsporting and bad mannered to spoil the celebration of a sporting event because you do not emotionally agree with the winner. Do you think it would be accepted at the olympics? Bad manners do not belong in the sport as personal attacks do not belong on F1technical. I simply do not want to see such things. I agree with complaining about the politics and tactics of teams but when they win fair and square you have to respect that and congratulate them. This booing is done by a small band of rich Tiffosi at least according to Red Bull who have the money to travel to races and spoil the podiums for Red Bull when Vettel wins. I think that F1 needs to do something about it. If the fans consistently misbehave the podium interviews will have to stop and they must go back to a controlled environment that cannot be manipulated by a few people who are prepared to spoil the celebration for their own narrow minded and selfish agenda.
Red Bull claims it is a group of rich tifosi, yet I've not seen this claim made elsewhere. Interesting that we are accepting Red Bull's claim that it's a bunch of Ferrari fans.

That aside, I recall the British fans cheering Schumacher's crash at Silverstone in '99...only stopping when they realized he was injured.

Then there was Hockenheim a few months later, when Hakkinen's rear wing failed and he spun off at 190MPH and went head-on into the tire barrier. The roar of the crowd was deafening when they saw that happen.

At Watkins Glen back in I believe it was '73, the fans set fire to someone's Winnebago for no other reason than to do it.

Who can also forget the Italian fans swarming the track at Monza decades ago to strip down all the race cars they could get their hands on? Or the British fans doing the same thing when Nigel won in 1992?

The idea that booing is a terrific horror show is ludicrous considering past deeds by fans in general at F1 events.

Only you would think F1 needs to do something about it. The fans pay money to attend these races. So long as they aren't attempting to throw things, assault drivers, or create a otherwise unsafe environment, they are free to boo as much as they'd like. Not everyone likes the winner of a race. That's their given right to boo, no matter how much you dislike it. Booing at sporting events has been around since time immemorial. It's not going away. Considering the behavior that goes on at football games, booing a winning driver is trivial when you have people throwing bananas onto the pitch at black players.

There's a reason fan is a shortened version of the word fanatic. Fanatic just has --understandably-- negative connotations attached to it.
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GitanesBlondes wrote:
There's a reason fan is a shortened version of the word fanatic. Fanatic just has --understandably-- negative connotations attached to it.
I never ever thought of that. I might have to adress myself from now on as a "casual enthousiast".
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Anyone who boos is a complete idiot and has got issues... Anyway, its a well known fact of life that idiots are quite widespread. I mean idiot in the literal sense too... These are people who have achieved nothing in their life and can't articulate themselves beyond booing or whinging.

Exhibit A:
Joie de vivre wrote:Nice fella? He's arogant narcissist with his idiotic finger. Nice fella in Malaysia? And don't like him and I'd boo him as well!
I was a bit pissed at what Vettel did in Malaysia (initially) but I got over it... I've got other things to worry about.

But people like our friend Joie above obviously don't.

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turbof1 wrote:Very unsportive to do so. Unfortunaly most sports are having this problems. I remember supporters of our national belgian soccer team booing for the national anthem of the opponents. Very disrespectful.

Italy seems to have the biggest problem in F1; I can't remember the last time when a non-ferrari driver wasn't boo'd for winning the Italian GP. Alonso had that problem, Hamilton, Vettel, I even believe Heinz-Harald Frenzen get the same treatment in 1999.
Italy has got problem with many sports. Football is perhaps the worst, racism booing you name it.
And when 2 passionate opposing fans starts booing at each other, it always end up in violence.

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I was at Indianapolis in 2005; the crowd booed Michael, Rubens and the Ferrari team representative. That was probably because at the time, in the local media, there were stories that they (Ferrari) had vetoed some reasonable-sounding solutions which would have allowed the race to continue as normal. I would love to say I didn't join in, or have the catharsis of admitting that I had; the truth is that I honestly cannot remember.

What I will never forget is the crowd's reaction when the podium announcer said "and in third place for Jordan Grand Prix, Tiago Monteiro!". There was, at least in the stand I was in, a collective pause for a second or so as if to decide whether he was a good guy or a baddie followed by an enormous cheer (which I wholeheartedly joined in with). I'm pretty-sure he was the only guy in the whole place who had an unequivocally good day.

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Canada, 2006


Jerez testing, 2008


Spain, 2010


Turkey, 2010

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Game over fanboys, time to put the narcissism back into the closet.

By the way, I'm not quite sure why a driver with a trademark victory gesture is narcissistic. Does that mean these other finger gestures are also narcissistic?

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I'll spare you the obvious German equivalent