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Would jet engines comply with the rules that mandate the cars to be rear wheel drive?010010011010 wrote:....so if the rules were opened up so as not to discriminate against rotaries, why shouldn't jet engines be allowed?
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......two different sets of engine regs, which would lead to a lot of complaining and could never really be made fair......
Turboprop engines have shaft driven power, so if even 1% of the engines power was driven through the wheels it'd still be rear wheel drive.Would jet engines comply with the rules that mandate the cars to be rear wheel drive?
Secondly was it fair when there were normally aspirated and turbocharged engines on the same grid? There were 2 sets of rules too.
At those times they limited turbo pressures and fuel amount. Many times people in the forum suggested to liberate engine technical rules and only regulate the amount of fuel burned per race, me included. That would be nice to see, but expensive to do. And sice F1 is not a battle of gentlemen and machines anymore, its not practical.010010011010 wrote:Secondly was it fair when there were normally aspirated and turbocharged engines on the same grid? There were 2 sets of rules too.
I don't think it was fair, as the turbos were much more powerful and if i'm not mistaken (which i could well be) almost all of the teams ended up using turbos till the were banned.
Rotaries are so "powerful"(power/displacement) moreso because it moves air(and thus fuel) into and out of the engine so quickly and efficiently.. I have been building rotaries for over 10 years and have never seen any run over 12K rpm, nothing close to F1 levels... but with F1 levels of development the reciprocating engine would be as extinct as V-12's during the Turbo era.010010011010 wrote:The reason rotaries are so powerful, if i'm not mistaken, is because the rev so damn high, since the parts are always going the same way. theres no start stopping stuff like in normal combustion engines. really, they're a cross between internal combustion engines and jet engines. so if the rules were opened up so as not to discriminate against rotaries, why shouldn't jet engines be allowed?
To me the biggest problem in having rotaries against normal engines in f1 are the regulations. since theres no proper way of comparing these two engines the conventional regulations on displacement, bore, stroke etc.. cannot be used. which would lead to either A) two different sets of engine regs, which would lead to a lot of complaining and could never really be made fair. or B) a cap put on the power output, which would make engine development (except for maybe fuel economy) a useless endeavor.
I do appreciate the sound and engineering of a good rotary and the 787B is one of my favorite cars, but i cant see these two engines competing against each other fairly in f1.
p.s. has anyone heard anything about the rotary Mazda have been developing to run on hydrogen??