Ferrari SF-24 speculation

A place to discuss the characteristics of the cars in Formula One, both current as well as historical. Laptimes, driver worshipping and team chatter do not belong here.
User avatar
F1NAC
169
Joined: 31 Mar 2013, 22:35

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

Xyz22 wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 16:59
Haas 2024 car doesn't have the triangular air scope.
Gone on the SF 24 as well?
Main intake is still triangular, they added cooling inlets on its sides. The same will be on a Ferrari

CouncilorIrissa
CouncilorIrissa
9
Joined: 05 Oct 2023, 02:35

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

SF21 had the same “ears”, so it wouldn’t be the first time.

I do wonder though what they are seeing in having more cooling on the sides rather than centreline. The only time they had the same concept as everyone else was in 2018

User avatar
gordonthegun
254
Joined: 28 Mar 2019, 23:33
Location: Monza, Italy.

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

Is it like other years and Haas will adopt the same suspensions as the SF-24?

Image
Last edited by gordonthegun on 02 Feb 2024, 19:20, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

gordonthegun wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 19:06
Is it like other years and Haas will adopt the same suspensions as SF-24?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFVrTAfWwAA ... name=large

Highly likely that the renders use an old year's component for the suspension. Was the case in 2023 and 2022 even though they showed most of the real car in 2023.

I think the roll hoop however tells us design of ferrari's as well

Sevach
Sevach
1081
Joined: 07 Jun 2012, 17:00

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

CouncilorIrissa wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 17:08
SF21 had the same “ears”, so it wouldn’t be the first time.

I do wonder though what they are seeing in having more cooling on the sides rather than centreline. The only time they had the same concept as everyone else was in 2018
Despite the larger inlet with SF-21 style ears it's still a rather petite mid-section on the Haas.

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

Sevach wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 20:25
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 17:08
SF21 had the same “ears”, so it wouldn’t be the first time.

I do wonder though what they are seeing in having more cooling on the sides rather than centreline. The only time they had the same concept as everyone else was in 2018
Despite the larger inlet with SF-21 style ears it's still a rather petite mid-section on the Haas.
They have fairly large sidepods. McLaren have essentially the same sidepod profile as Haas but with a waterslide as well. So I think this opens up a narrower midline

User avatar
Vanja #66
1562
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

Last year Haas showed an early bodywork with a gimmick suspension geometry, nothing suggests they showed the latest car now. Suspension seen looks like 23 suspension from every angle, front and back. I wouldn't take anything shown there as relevant to SF24 suspension parts, not to mention sidepod and engine cover bodywork...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

Summary of sf24 info from recent formu1a Uno livestream

SF-24 suspension kinematics will change a lot from sf23, with much more anti-dive effect and more inclined suspension arms. The internal mechanics will also change.

MTL79
MTL79
1
Joined: 08 Jan 2014, 17:48

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

I thought it was a livery reveal for the HAAS today?

User avatar
BorisTheBlade
32
Joined: 21 Nov 2008, 11:15

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

MTL79 wrote:
03 Feb 2024, 00:23
I thought it was a livery reveal for the HAAS today?
While it might not be the real deal, this is certainly more than just a paint job.

DoctorRadio
DoctorRadio
4
Joined: 11 Apr 2021, 16:43

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

organic wrote:
03 Feb 2024, 00:17
Summary of sf24 info from recent formu1a Uno livestream

SF-24 suspension kinematics will change a lot from sf23, with much more anti-dive effect and more inclined suspension arms. The internal mechanics will also change.
Adding from that livestream, Giuliano Duchessa reports for Ferrari a triangular airbox with no ears, with some original solutions.

jambuka
jambuka
28
Joined: 24 Feb 2023, 07:52

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

Better tire deg observed on SF-23 and F1-75 at Barcelona tire tests. this was due to further improvement to hybrid power management.

User avatar
gordonthegun
254
Joined: 28 Mar 2019, 23:33
Location: Monza, Italy.

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

jambuka wrote:
04 Feb 2024, 18:46
Better tire deg observed on SF-23 and F1-75 at Barcelona tire tests. this was due to further improvement to hybrid power management.
Maybe together with a different tire specification and track temperature.

User avatar
scuderiabrandon
102
Joined: 11 Feb 2023, 08:42

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

jambuka wrote:
04 Feb 2024, 18:46
Better tire deg observed on SF-23 and F1-75 at Barcelona tire tests. this was due to further improvement to hybrid power management.
I mean the deg has been good for a while now, some stints we were matching RB's on the softer compounds in the latter stages of the season. Pace dropped off when the compounds got harder. Which also dismisses the ridiculous idea that Ferrari prioritize setups for qualifying.

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: Ferrari SF-24 speculation

Post

scuderiabrandon wrote:
04 Feb 2024, 22:12
jambuka wrote:
04 Feb 2024, 18:46
Better tire deg observed on SF-23 and F1-75 at Barcelona tire tests. this was due to further improvement to hybrid power management.
I mean the deg has been good for a while now, some stints we were matching RB's on the softer compounds in the latter stages of the season. Pace dropped off when the compounds got harder. Which also dismisses the ridiculous idea that Ferrari prioritize setups for qualifying.
I'm not saying Ferrari priotirize setups for qualifying, but qualifying is run on the softer tires. Coincidence, we don't know.

The fact that Ferrari just randomly stopped destroying their tires like butter in the middle of the season with no significant developments suggest it was a setup issue from the beginning.
A lion must kill its prey.