2021 Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Max on his way to Spa Francorchamps by helicopter from Maastricht Airport.

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That Paul Ricard rear wing is going to be magic around here! Both Silverstone and Hungary, were important lessons from a setup perspective.

I'm excited, I know the RB16B is going to dance around the downhill, and with Honda nailing the energy management, there's definitely the chance to even up the championship.
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AMuS reporting RB are bringing updates to the race. We are going all in now.

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dxpetrov wrote:
25 Aug 2021, 21:27
AMuS reporting RB are bringing updates to the race. We are going all in now.
Where did you see that?

The only AMuS report I’ve seen is that they still have a few small parts for the second half of the season:



And from the AMuS Belgium preview:

“Only small things are to be expected on the aerodynamic front [from the grid for the second half of the season]. Only Red Bull has announced that it will introduce a few new parts for the RB16B during the second half in order to bring down Mercedes in the fight for the title. The Verstappen team did not want to reveal what exactly is planned.”

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Any chance on Redbull taking engine penalties in Spa? They could be back in the top 5 by 5 laps…

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NL_Fer wrote:
26 Aug 2021, 08:54
Any chance on Redbull taking engine penalties in Spa? They could be back in the top 5 by 5 laps…
Their tires will run out before they reach the top 5

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It would be stupid. It's better to build up a points gap, just as before Silverstone, and then take the engine penalty.

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dxpetrov wrote:
26 Aug 2021, 12:13
It would be stupid. It's better to build up a points gap, just as before Silverstone, and then take the engine penalty.
A penalty will hurt one way or the other. The smartest thing might be to postpone it to when they really need it, in case there will be a freaky qualifying somewhere (rain, spin or other reliability issue), so they can take it while already have to start from the back of the field.

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Honda checked in Sakura whether the Silverstone PU could still be repaired. According to Helmut Marko in Der Kronen Zeitung it can't.
If I understand correctly, he also doesn't want to take the penalty here in Spa with a new PU.

„Viel schlimmer ist aber, dass wir mit drei Triebwerken nicht auskommen, ein viertes einsetzen müssen."
Das bedeutet eine Rückversetzung, ist aber für Spa nicht geplant. Obwohl ein neuer Motor auf der Highspeed-Piste grundsätzlich von Vorteil wäre,
„aber der letzte Wetterbericht sagt Regen voraus".

„Regen birgt Risiken"
Kein Problem mit Fahrkünstler Verstappen - oder? „Normalerweise ist Regen gut, aber als Fahrer wünscht man sich das in Spa nicht unbedingt, das birgt Risiken",
weiß Ex-Formel-Pilot Marko. Ein dritter Platz hinter Mercedes wie im Vorjahr reicht ihm aber nicht:
„Ein Sieg ist das, was wir anstreben. Wir sind im Punkterückstand, da gibt's nur Angriff!"
"But it is much worse that we cannot get by with three engines and have to use a fourth."
That means a relocation, but is not planned for Spa. Although a new engine would be an advantage on the high-speed runway,
"But the last weather report predicts rain".

"Rain carries risks"
No problem with driving artist Verstappen - right? "Normally rain is good, but as a driver you don't necessarily want that in Spa, it carries risks," knows ex-Formula driver Marko. Third place behind Mercedes, as in the previous year, is not enough for him, however:
“A win is what we strive for. We are behind in points, there is only attack! "

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Youd think taking it this weekend with the chance of rain is the best time. Max is likely to be the fastest guy on the track bar Lewis, and could easily make his way up to P3/P2 given the right circumstances. Harder to do at other tracks or dry weekends.
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Yes but there is the risk this PU can also be damaged from a crash in the rain as well.
It seems this year the drivers are taking more risks because the cars are so much closer in performance resulting in greater opportunity to get more points.
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If they have to take an extra engine, doing so at a high throttle % track would be the sensible option, wouldn't it? Somewhere like Monza, for example. Also somewhere where a fresh PU will give good benefit on the long straights.
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They can take a new engine and put in pool but if weather is not good, then qualify and race an older PU right?

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Are they able to 'wring the neck' of this engine to get the last drop of performance if before changing it if they plan for a wet race and it happens to be dry at race time?
They obviously know how much they can take out of it by going to the extreme, and as long as it does not actually destruct it may be an ace in the hole if a change catches everyone and others are not intending to kill the engine.
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Big Tea wrote:
26 Aug 2021, 17:38
Are they able to 'wring the neck' of this engine to get the last drop of performance if before changing it if they plan for a wet race and it happens to be dry at race time?
They obviously know how much they can take out of it by going to the extreme, and as long as it does not actually destruct it may be an ace in the hole if a change catches everyone and others are not intending to kill the engine.
All the teams push their engines as hard as they dare. Neither Merc or RedBull can afford a break down in a race, so I don't see how they can push an engine any harder than they usually would.
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