2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 25 - 27

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Re: 2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 25 - 27

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organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:02
matt_b wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:02
organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:01
I don't understand why it takes so long to make a decision. you can literally see the track is almost dry
Perfect for a standing start then [-o<
And have another australia situation? Late standing starts are a bit silly
A standing start would just cause another accident / safety car / red flagg

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Lots of puddles on the grid, got to be a rolling start i would think.

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organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:02
matt_b wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:02
organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:01
I don't understand why it takes so long to make a decision. you can literally see the track is almost dry
Perfect for a standing start then [-o<
And have another australia situation? Late standing starts are a bit silly
Australia was 1 lap so it was all or nothing, we got 7 laps today they'll be fine :wink:

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napoleon1981 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:06
Lots of puddles on the grid, got to be a rolling start i would think.
Exactly so. A standing start helps one side of the grid more than the other, usually.
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fourmula1 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 16:59
Fix the barrier, send them out, do a rolling restart, don’t count pace car laps against race laps. What is the hold up.
As that's not what the rules allow. They're fueled for 7 more laps and nothing more so laps behind the safety car HAVE to count.

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They should never actually have a standing start apart from at the race start. Its a lot fairer, safer and still 'dramatic' to have a rolling start. Having a standing start is just them trying to create a bit of chaos, even if it ends up being a crash. Not a fan of how we always hear Karun saying that there 'should' be a standing start

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:12
They should never actually have a standing start apart from at the race start. Its a lot fairer, safer and still 'dramatic' to have a rolling start. Having a standing start is just them trying to create a bit of chaos, even if it ends up being a crash. Not a fan of how we always hear Karun saying that there 'should' be a standing start
The comentators try their best for excitement hence the desire for a standing start. I wouldnt mind one but it's just not the safest thing to do and it can result in another red flag.
I agree that rolling starts should be the rule.

I do wonder if Alonso can snatch a win?
For Sure!!

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Re: 2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 25 - 27

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:12
They should never actually have a standing start apart from at the race start. Its a lot fairer, safer and still 'dramatic' to have a rolling start. Having a standing start is just them trying to create a bit of chaos, even if it ends up being a crash. Not a fan of how we always hear Karun saying that there 'should' be a standing start
Agreed. Why "should" there be a second race start? Standing starts should be reserved for the beginning of the grand Prix imo

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SparkyAMG wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:11
fourmula1 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 16:59
Fix the barrier, send them out, do a rolling restart, don’t count pace car laps against race laps. What is the hold up.
As that's not what the rules allow. They're fueled for 7 more laps and nothing more so laps behind the safety car HAVE to count.
You could add SC laps on to the race distance but the teams would have to agree and fuel accordingly. The BTCC does this, but only up to an agreed number of laps. For F1 you could add between 5 & 10 depending on circuit length. It also makes it much less likely a race will end behind SC.

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ringo wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:16
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:12
They should never actually have a standing start apart from at the race start. Its a lot fairer, safer and still 'dramatic' to have a rolling start. Having a standing start is just them trying to create a bit of chaos, even if it ends up being a crash. Not a fan of how we always hear Karun saying that there 'should' be a standing start
The comentators try their best for excitement hence the desire for a standing start. I wouldnt mind one but it's just not the safest thing to do and it can result in another red flag.
I agree that rolling starts should be the rule.

I do wonder if Alonso can snatch a win?
It always pisses me off a bit when Karun says it. He is literally a racing driver. I would understand it a lot if it came from Crofty, but it always seems to come from Karun

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organic wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 20:39

In the last two properly wet races alpine got podiums :shock: time to put some bets in


Just saying...

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Russell out. Puncture

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organic wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:19
organic wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 20:39

In the last two properly wet races alpine got podiums :shock: time to put some bets in


Just saying...
It's looking goooooood

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+5 for Perez. Pit lane speeding.

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Mogster wrote:
27 Aug 2023, 17:23
+5 for Perez. Pit lane speeding.
Dropping a stinker as always #-o