2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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AMR26 is in the air on its way: https://x.com/FranChuvieco/status/2016504440652493250

Translated:
Aston Martin AMR26 is heading from Birmingham to Girona to participate in the F1 2026 shakedown.

⏳The expected flight duration is one hour and 40 minutes.

🔧 Plan A is to try to shoot in the afternoon session on Thursday.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cvk7020

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bananapeel23 wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 12:10
sucof wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 18:19
bananapeel23 wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 17:19


But it should also be said that just because the difference between a good and a bad fuel can mean many tenths, it in no way means that those are the differences we will see in practice. In reality all teams will probably bring a reasonably good fuel, so we're looking at maybe a few tenths at most. Still a substantial amount of time, but not to the extreme extent the comment implies.
No, it is not good or bad fuel. You can have more or less energy dense fuel for example, the rules allow this. With the less energy dense fuel you can use more.
And there are other such parameters.
In the end you can optimise your engine, combustion, to a specific type, based on what method you think will be more beneficial.
But this affects your design for the long term, and you can end up in a dead end while others still can develop and gain more power. Or you can miss a trick with a certain type of fuel and this is also baked in to your structure for the long term.
So it could be that a fuel type that seems less beneficial at first, will end up the best choice.
We're not really in that much of a disagreement here. All I'm saying is that you would likely need a truly horrible fuel to lose many tenths (I'm interpreting it as almost a second, 8-9 tenths). Obviously there will be better and worse fuels, and likely track to track variance where less dense/more dense fuel perform better, but you would need to lose almost 1/10 of your total engine power in order to get near a second of lost laptime. No team will have a fuel so bad it loses them 10% of their engine power compared to the competition.

3-4 tenths difference on average is absolutely possible from fuel alone. 8-9 tenths isn't happening.You would need such a truly awful fuel in order to lose that much power and all engine manufacturers will almost certainly have decent to good fuel at the very least.
You probably would not lose anything in qualifying with less dense fuel ,cause you're allowed more flow to compensate. In the first half of the race though that extra weight becomes a large burden to carry.

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diffuser wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 18:04
bananapeel23 wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 12:10
sucof wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 18:19


No, it is not good or bad fuel. You can have more or less energy dense fuel for example, the rules allow this. With the less energy dense fuel you can use more.
And there are other such parameters.
In the end you can optimise your engine, combustion, to a specific type, based on what method you think will be more beneficial.
But this affects your design for the long term, and you can end up in a dead end while others still can develop and gain more power. Or you can miss a trick with a certain type of fuel and this is also baked in to your structure for the long term.
So it could be that a fuel type that seems less beneficial at first, will end up the best choice.
We're not really in that much of a disagreement here. All I'm saying is that you would likely need a truly horrible fuel to lose many tenths (I'm interpreting it as almost a second, 8-9 tenths). Obviously there will be better and worse fuels, and likely track to track variance where less dense/more dense fuel perform better, but you would need to lose almost 1/10 of your total engine power in order to get near a second of lost laptime. No team will have a fuel so bad it loses them 10% of their engine power compared to the competition.

3-4 tenths difference on average is absolutely possible from fuel alone. 8-9 tenths isn't happening.You would need such a truly awful fuel in order to lose that much power and all engine manufacturers will almost certainly have decent to good fuel at the very least.
You probably would not lose anything in qualifying with less dense fuel ,cause you're allowed more flow to compensate. In the first half of the race though that extra weight becomes a large burden to carry.
A more dense fuel could also mean a slightly smaller gas tank, which then could lower the car's center of gravity.

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FNTC wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 16:34
AMR26 is in the air on its way: https://x.com/FranChuvieco/status/2016504440652493250

Translated:
Aston Martin AMR26 is heading from Birmingham to Girona to participate in the F1 2026 shakedown.

⏳The expected flight duration is one hour and 40 minutes.

🔧 Plan A is to try to shoot in the afternoon session on Thursday.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cvk7020
here it is arriving at the track:



The flight was tracked by more than 10k people on Flightradar24 and was #1 worldwide at some point. Crazy stuff

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madridista wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 20:02
FNTC wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 16:34
AMR26 is in the air on its way: https://x.com/FranChuvieco/status/2016504440652493250

Translated:
Aston Martin AMR26 is heading from Birmingham to Girona to participate in the F1 2026 shakedown.

⏳The expected flight duration is one hour and 40 minutes.

🔧 Plan A is to try to shoot in the afternoon session on Thursday.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cvk7020
here it is arriving at the track:



The flight was tracked by more than 6k people on Flightradar24 and was #1 worldwide at some point. Crazy stuff

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G_wrH6RXsAE ... me=360x360
Yeah that's pretty crazy :D

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Rockypeeters wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 20:33
madridista wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 20:02
FNTC wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 16:34
AMR26 is in the air on its way: https://x.com/FranChuvieco/status/2016504440652493250

Translated:
Aston Martin AMR26 is heading from Birmingham to Girona to participate in the F1 2026 shakedown.

⏳The expected flight duration is one hour and 40 minutes.

🔧 Plan A is to try to shoot in the afternoon session on Thursday.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cvk7020
here it is arriving at the track:



The flight was tracked by more than 6k people on Flightradar24 and was #1 worldwide at some point. Crazy stuff

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G_wrH6RXsAE ... me=360x360
Yeah that's pretty crazy :D
Fernando Alonso is still the most followed and respected driver despite his age.
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None of the cars were particularly distinct so far. Our only hope is Aston Martin and Williams coming out with something outlandish.

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I have a feeling that Newey has cooked up something others haven't done yet. Exiting to see tomorrow.
The big question is the Honda engine, with 0 laps do far. Hope they have done well too.

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I read it somewhere Aston Martin will use the 200km for filming on Saturday.

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Everybody's 2027 car is about to be revealed tomorrow. Are we excited?
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haven't fully kept up with AMR rumors. is this expected to be a "real car" tomorrow?

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Macklaren wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 02:50
haven't fully kept up with AMR rumors. is this expected to be a "real car" tomorrow?
No point in testing a fake car.

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vorticism wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 02:49
Everybody's 2027 car is about to be revealed tomorrow. Are we excited?
Excited for sure. I expect the AM and the Redbull to share some DNA, there was some late exchange in staff in the higher up roles... and apparently the AM has very narrow Sidepods too.

Ian Greig , who was Head of Aerodynamics at Aston, left in October and joined Redbull November 26. Though this could maybe be too late already too see any similarity for this version.
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madridista wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 03:40
Ian Greig , who was Head of Aerodynamics at Aston, left in October and joined Redbull November 26.
How did he have no gardening leave? Any intellectual capital from Newey's design went straight to Red Bull.

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Should the team allow lance stroll any time during the shakedown Thursday and Friday? or just the filming days after?