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vas_04614 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 13:49
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Why Newey "goes to another office" to avoid work on 2025 Aston Martin F1 car
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/16-07 ... /10742429/
Good article

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This means that instead of getting just 90% of the testing allowance, the British outfit will instead get 105% for the remainder of the season. As a result, it will now have 84 hours of wind-on time, up from 72, and 336 wind tunnel runs for the remainder of the season. With Adrian Newey onboard, maybe this is all the time he needs to turn around the team’s fortunes ahead of the new regulations coming in.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/winn ... /10742457/

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vas_04614 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 13:49
:lol:

Why Newey "goes to another office" to avoid work on 2025 Aston Martin F1 car
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/16-07 ... /10742429/
What? I read on the cool and always informative "Aston Martin Insider" twitter accounts the last weeks/months that the updates were made under the guidance of Newey. How is that possible... :lol:

Fact ist that some very high profile engineers joined the team 2025 (Newey and Vino in March, or Cardile and Elliott in July). Maybe already too late for 2026 for some, but the leaders changed dramatically over the last 12 months.

Maybe we will see a new leader of the perfomance department too, as there hasn't been announced a successor of McCullough so far.

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diffuser wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 01:09
The end of the day. If the upgrades don't start working, it will decrease the chances of the car being strong next year. It will mean that they haven't figured out what they are doing wrong with the WT and CFD. Yes, the floor will play a much smaller part next year but it will still play a part.
personally i dont think theres any question that the upgrades have worked. they may not be where we want them to be, but the car is miles ahead of where they were at the begining of the season. even alonso is saying that they worked.

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-wkst- wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 16:10
vas_04614 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 13:49
:lol:

Why Newey "goes to another office" to avoid work on 2025 Aston Martin F1 car
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/16-07 ... /10742429/
What? I read on the cool and always informative "Aston Martin Insider" twitter accounts the last weeks/months that the updates were made under the guidance of Newey. How is that possible... :lol:

Fact ist that some very high profile engineers joined the team 2025 (Newey and Vino in March, or Cardile and Elliott in July). Maybe already too late for 2026 for some, but the leaders changed dramatically over the last 12 months.

Maybe we will see a new leader of the perfomance department too, as there hasn't been announced a successor of McCullough so far.
Didn't someone mention that Newey gave the design team some broad strokes direction got the 25 updates, but isn't hands on involved in them?
"From success, you learn absolutely nothing. From failure and setbacks, conclusions can be drawn." - Niki Lauda

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Macklaren wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 17:38
Doesn't matter if there is a clause or not. If Max tells the team he's leaving, that's it. The question is whether there are entities out there who will write a big enough check to RBR to secure the release -- and Stroll/ARAMCO certainly qualify
Ask Button about that one. Contract Recognition Board forced him to remain at BAR Honda when he wanted to break his contract and move back to Williams.... Obviously that actually worked out quite well for Jenson lol

Mac COULD tell Red Bull that he's not driving for them, but they could quite legally refuse to release him and block a move to another team - they could even potentially sue him for breach of contract. Not saying they would, but they definitely could if they chose to.
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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:24
Macklaren wrote:
14 Jul 2025, 17:38
Doesn't matter if there is a clause or not. If Max tells the team he's leaving, that's it. The question is whether there are entities out there who will write a big enough check to RBR to secure the release -- and Stroll/ARAMCO certainly qualify
Ask Button about that one. Contract Recognition Board forced him to remain at BAR Honda when he wanted to break his contract and move back to Williams.... Obviously that actually worked out quite well for Jenson lol

Mac COULD tell Red Bull that he's not driving for them, but they could quite legally refuse to release him and block a move to another team - they could even potentially sue him for breach of contract. Not saying they would, but they definitely could if they chose to.
Yep and RBR contracts tend to be tight.

The one that has me interested is CH's contract. Apparently he signed up till 2030. The shoe is on the other foot on that one. Wonder how much they're going to have to pay CH to get out of that or they just gonna pay him till 2030? Sure he's having dreams of doubling dipping.

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Today should be (at least in theory) the official starting date of CTO Enrico Cardile. Would be nice if the team gives an update on that matter soon...

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Watanabe said this week that Aston Martin requested/suggested changes to the engine architecture. He doesn't know if the request came from Cowel or Newey, but he said he likes this frank and transparent interaction between the works. Sorry guys, i dont remember where i find this articles, but, some spanish pages has this information too.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 16:23
Watanabe said this week that Aston Martin requested/suggested changes to the engine architecture. He doesn't know if the request came from Cowel or Newey, but he said he likes this frank and transparent interaction between the works. Sorry guys, i dont remember where i find this articles, but, some spanish pages has this information too.
I wonder what it could be? When he says engine, does he mean ICE or the PU in general?

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Rikrikrik wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 16:23
Watanabe said this week that Aston Martin requested/suggested changes to the engine architecture. He doesn't know if the request came from Cowel or Newey, but he said he likes this frank and transparent interaction between the works. Sorry guys, i dont remember where i find this articles, but, some spanish pages has this information too.
It's a good sign that Newey has some tricks up his sleeve.

I remember when Newey pushed the limits on packaging with the new 2014 engine regulations. In pre-season testing, Renault was annoyed as they could barely get the engine to fit inside the Red Bull. Yet the car was very competitive considering how much lap time the engine gave up to Mercedes.