2014 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne

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FFS, which US TV channel does F1 this year?!?

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Not vettel's fan but I wouldn't think less of his championships than I do already if ricci beats him or turns out to be a heck of a challenge. I think there's something about his style that fit the exhaust blown era. Let's give him time and see. He's not done by any measure

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zeph wrote:FFS, which US TV channel does F1 this year?!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fo ... oadcasters

Is this of any help ? Wiki isn't exactly known for being super reliable or up to date though.
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bauc wrote:I'm also curios to see how K-Mag will behave in the race.....
I think he should be just fine. He's looked the fastest and most comfortable rookie since Lewis first entered F1 and appears to have a very adaptable seat of the pants driving style. For me the biggest question mark will be whether or not he'll be able to manage the rear tyres with the way he's set up the car as that could be the achilles heel in his approach. I'd also expect the odd mistake but that would be utterly understandable as long as it doesn't get to him when it happens and makes him drive more conservatively. Time will tell!

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rifrafs2kees wrote:Not vettel's fan but I wouldn't think less of his championships than I do already if ricci beats him or turns out to be a heck of a challenge. I think there's something about his style that fit the exhaust blown era. Let's give him time and see. He's not done by any measure
Will certainly say a lot about Webber in the previous 3 seasons :(
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Thanks. It is supposed to be NBSN, but I must have missed it.

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Helios wrote:Hamilton is in the best possible position to win the race, not just because he's starting from pole, but because he has Ricciardo behind him who could potentially hold up Rosberg (in case the RB10 is no match in tomorrow's race).

On the other hand, it could go really wrong just like it did in 2012 where he messed up the start and was in a defensive role until the very last lap. A win in the first race of the season would be so extremely important, let's hope he get's everything right. It's about high time for a second WDC for Hamilton.
Wrong, Button is in the best position, because when in pole there are fewer "safe" choices to make for the leaders, whereas Button, as we have seen in the past, does the complete opposite of what all the fast drivers do and comes out ahead from pure luck. 2010 he pitted early for slicks and promptly went off track and barely made it out of the gravel trap, but because he knew he was hopelessly down on pace he went with the alternate strategy at every opportunity and it came up gold for him, same as in Canada 2011. Rain, and thus yellow flags, turn these type of races into crap shoots sometimes.
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oT v1 wrote:
rifrafs2kees wrote:Not vettel's fan but I wouldn't think less of his championships than I do already if ricci beats him or turns out to be a heck of a challenge. I think there's something about his style that fit the exhaust blown era. Let's give him time and see. He's not done by any measure
Will certainly say a lot about Webber in the previous 3 seasons :(
Webber...i like the guy but I was never impressed...he had to be way past it....likable guy, but he certainly made life very easy for vettel

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Not in 2010 he didn't! Vettel got his butt handed to him by Webber on several occasions that season.

It is a great result for Ricciardo, but I think people are getting a little ahead of themselves. P2 is fantastic, but the race is on Sunday.

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oT v1 wrote:Will certainly say a lot about Webber in the previous 3 seasons :(
Only really with regards to his adaptability to the blown diffuser. Vettel's a very quick driver but in my opinion, and this is very much just an opinion, he was somewhat flattered by the blown diffuser and fragile Pirelli tyres perfectly suiting his style whilst having a car best able to exploit those traits. Webber's lack of love for the blown diffuser and inability to fully adapt to it contributed to making Vettel look exceptional on track.

Those advantages have been taken away and whilst I still fully expect Vettel to be a super quick top 5 driver and unbeatable on his day, my own opinion is that he will not be in a class of his own as has been the case in his championship years.

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It was a very good qualifying, I appreciated it a lot !

Renault engine is really on the good way now and Pole by HAM was expected ! Unlike nice driving from the rookies MAG and KVY ! Happy to see that the two drivers are at the moment a clever choice for McLaren and STR. One should notice the excellent performance of Ricciardo and Vergne today.

But be careful about the results, the session was on uncertain weather and upset by yellow flags. Otherwise I'm pretty sure that Button and Vettel had the pace to be on the top 5.

Small deception in williams...
Last but not least, the E22 is still lacks reliability, not a chance for a talented driver as GRO.

I'm looking forward tomorrow :D

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Powershift wrote:
Helios wrote:Hamilton is in the best possible position to win the race, not just because he's starting from pole, but because he has Ricciardo behind him who could potentially hold up Rosberg (in case the RB10 is no match in tomorrow's race).

On the other hand, it could go really wrong just like it did in 2012 where he messed up the start and was in a defensive role until the very last lap. A win in the first race of the season would be so extremely important, let's hope he get's everything right. It's about high time for a second WDC for Hamilton.
Wrong, Button is in the best position, because when in pole there are fewer "safe" choices to make for the leaders, whereas Button, as we have seen in the past, does the complete opposite of what all the fast drivers do and comes out ahead from pure luck. 2010 he pitted early for slicks and promptly went off track and barely made it out of the gravel trap, but because he knew he was hopelessly down on pace he went with the alternate strategy at every opportunity and it came up gold for him, same as in Canada 2011. Rain, and thus yellow flags, turn these type of races into crap shoots sometimes.
Wrong. If you asked them if they'd like to switch places then I doubt Hamilton would agree and that Button would much rather be on pole.

You are right that when you have nothing to lose it allows you to gamble, but that's only a benefit if the gamble works. By definition a gamble has a high probability of not working. So whilst we all remember those stellar results where a gamble paid off massively there will be countless examples of gambles being taken that didn't work out or at best gave a neutral result.

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myurr wrote:
oT v1 wrote:Will certainly say a lot about Webber in the previous 3 seasons :(
Only really with regards to his adaptability to the blown diffuser. Vettel's a very quick driver but in my opinion, and this is very much just an opinion, he was somewhat flattered by the blown diffuser and fragile Pirelli tyres perfectly suiting his style whilst having a car best able to exploit those traits. Webber's lack of love for the blown diffuser and inability to fully adapt to it contributed to making Vettel look exceptional on track.

Those advantages have been taken away and whilst I still fully expect Vettel to be a super quick top 5 driver and unbeatable on his day, my own opinion is that he will not be in a class of his own as has been the case in his championship years.
Thank you for expressing my feelings on the matter :)

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Exca wrote:Otherwise I'm pretty sure that Button and Vettel had the pace to be on the top 5.

Small deception in williams...
I'd probably agree with you on Button but Vettel looked off colour all session but especially so when it rained. He was 2.4 seconds slower than his team mate in Q2 and that was cannot be entirely down to the yellow flag. He wasn't settled and the worst the yellow flag did was fluster him. He knew he needed to put in a stellar lap to make up for that sector and then over drove the car and made mistakes. Without the yellow he may have just about squeezed in to the top 10 but there was no way he'd be challenging for the top 3 and I reckon even the top 5 would have been a stretch.

He's been off kilter all day.

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myurr wrote:
oT v1 wrote:Will certainly say a lot about Webber in the previous 3 seasons :(
Only really with regards to his adaptability to the blown diffuser.
Yh i was careful to restrict it to the last 3 years.

Anyway back to the race, I'm happy for RIC and MAG but i see Alonso picking MAG off early and getting a solid 4th. RIC with his experience and the whole team behind him i think will push for ROS/HAM all the way.
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