Petition to FIA - 2026 rules canceled, V10s in 2028

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Re: Petition to FIA - 2026 rules canceled, V10s in 2028

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eyelid wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 20:39
Just bring 2.0 V8 with Turbo without any fuel flow limit until something like 17 000rpm and you're good to go.
Wouldn't that just result in engines running as low RPM as possible? You don' run high RPM unless you are forced to do so, either by law of the regulations or by law of physics.
bluechris wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 13:54
Give us back F1 noise and give free earplugs to the ones who cannot handle it. This covers everyone because now the pure f1 fans feel wrong.
Who defines who the purest fans are? I'm I not a purist when I put performance above sound?

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Re: Petition to FIA - 2026 rules canceled, V10s in 2028

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Ferry wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 16:53
eyelid wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 20:39
Just bring 2.0 V8 with Turbo without any fuel flow limit until something like 17 000rpm and you're good to go.
Wouldn't that just result in engines running as low RPM as possible? You don' run high RPM unless you are forced to do so, either by law of the regulations or by law of physics.
bluechris wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 13:54
Give us back F1 noise and give free earplugs to the ones who cannot handle it. This covers everyone because now the pure f1 fans feel wrong.
Who defines who the purest fans are? I'm I not a purist when I put performance above sound?
The point is that without sound you are unable to do anything about it. With sound you can have earplugs and be fine so everyone is happy.

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Re: Petition to FIA - 2026 rules canceled, V10s in 2028

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Ferry wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 16:53
eyelid wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 20:39
Just bring 2.0 V8 with Turbo without any fuel flow limit until something like 17 000rpm and you're good to go.
Wouldn't that just result in engines running as low RPM as possible? You don' run high RPM unless you are forced to do so, either by law of the regulations or by law of physics.
bluechris wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 13:54
Give us back F1 noise and give free earplugs to the ones who cannot handle it. This covers everyone because now the pure f1 fans feel wrong.
Who defines who the purest fans are? I'm I not a purist when I put performance above sound?
Yes it would. That's why FIA also has fuel flow limits to lower revs in nowadays regulations because actually everybody would just run the engines with high boost and gigantic turbo between 4000 - 6000rpm somehing without almost any sound. That would the most efficient way also to save fuel.

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Re: Petition to FIA - 2026 rules canceled, V10s in 2028

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bluechris wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 20:13
The point is that without sound you are unable to do anything about it. With sound you can have earplugs and be fine so everyone is happy.
If you really wanted to, I guess you could amplify the sound of todays hybrids. Put on some amplifier head set. I use it myself when out hunting. Primarily to protect my ears, but they also amplify weak sounds. I can hear the dog further away.
I've experienced the 2013 V8s live, as well as the V6 hybrids. Earplugs is not good enough for the NA high revving engines. Proper ear mufflers should be used if you want real good protection. I use ear plugs when attending races with the hybrids. The sound is still hard on the ears. I know a lot of people drop them, but from a health perspective they should really be used. Same goes for rock concerts. Tinnitus is a bitch..
Btw. How loud do you turn the TV sound up when watching races?

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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 12:02
There are also a lot of people who work trackside who appreciate the sound levels not being damaging to our hearing!!
You still need to bring and wear (if desired) ear plugs for F1 support categories Carrera Cup and F3 anyway? They are both much louder than F1 (even with mufflers, Carrera Cup are extremely loud; while obviously F3 cars (and all the three F-series) have no mufflers for whatever historical reason(s)).

So spectators already have the hearing protection on hand.

Obviously small children should be fitted with ear defenders, even for the turbo hybrid F1 cars - they have sensitive hearing.

Ferry wrote:
04 Sep 2025, 22:59
Btw. How loud do you turn the TV sound up when watching races?
I think I have the sound system (love my Jamo S606s, such a convenient package with the built-in 8" subwoofer and no need for seperate subwoofer!) around 95 dBA.

Unfortunately the commentary is often mixed louder (sometimes much louder) than the trackside microphones.

Obviously how loud racing cars seem trackside is a strong function of WHERE you stand (throttle percentage at that point in the circuit) and how FAR away you stand -- on street circuits the spectating points can be much closer to the track, so the cars seem louder. :)

On the Adelaide street circuit, there are points where you can be 2-3m away from the cars, while at permanent circuits you might be as far as 100m away in a grandstand beyond a run-off area.