Fernando Fernando!!!

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Hudsonhawk
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http://www.f1technical.net/news/1106
I like his point of view in the above link.

manchild
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Just wait until Principessa finds out that you're reading the news elsewhere… :wink: http://www.f1technical.net/news/1106
In general this is very good for Renault since they’ll be using one-race engine in China, while Kimi will have to use this one unless he does it again…

BTW... Tomba, didn't I tell you Mclarens were pushing too hard in Brazil?

Hudsonhawk
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who is principissa ?

manchild
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Hudsonhawk wrote:who is principissa ?
Principessa is webmistress of this web site, recently in charge for the news on f1techincal.

A rare specimen. The only girl among more than 3.000.000.000 woman on this planet that likes F1 and most important of all dislikes same driver as you! I won’t go further ‘cause she’ll go blushing again… :wink:

hehehe… “principissa” (Principessa – Princess in Italian) :lol:

Hudsonhawk
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.....that makes 3 of us... :shock: .....I thought I was a lonely sole until you rocked up......all of a sudden I'm starting to feel claustrophobic. :lol:

manchild
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Now I’m even more certain that Fisichella should have got kick in the butt after first 5-6 races of the season. This is truly shameful and he won’t be driving in Renault next season. :x

The only comforting thing is that Kimi will have to use this same engine in China…

Hudsonhawk
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Thats comforts you ?!?!?!?! They'll probably detonate their engine......take another 10 point penalty and still win ?!?!?!

manchild
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Now that I think of it they will for sure (they actually don’t have to detonate it at all, just report to FIA they are changing it). Renault will get E spec for China which will be completely different engine than the one used this whole season – one race engine. Since Mclaren probably has something similar built they’ll say “we blew it” and than use they own “one race engine”...

You’re right, no comfort at all, I wrote that under emotions… aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

jaslfc
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i thinkso this race proves that mclaren is a mile ahead of the competition this season.. and also shows that alonso is a true WORLD CHAMPION by lapping the renault right at its limit consistently

manchild
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Kimi drove very well but today Alonso’s R25 was the fastest car even though its engine was running second race. If it wasn’t for unjust FIA penalty Kimi wouldn’t finish in front of Alonso.

I won’t comment Fisichella ‘cause his overseer/understeer and grip problems obviously emerge mostly in his head. The pension beginning with 2006 will suit him just fine. :roll:

The only question about China is whether Kimi will decide to use this same engine and drive slower car or change to one race engine and drop 10 places.

Hudsonhawk
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You know......There is a flip side to Alonso's drive......It shows he is a weak champion.....He put nothing on the line. This is why people say he fluffed and floated his way to a championship and he proved them right with his drive.....F1 is too busy using calculators....

This is another prime example of why F1 is in the hole its in.....another example of how F1 has sacrificed racing.....(and suprisingly it hasnt come from the ferrari or should i say camp MS !!!) The net result of all this is that we as FAN's missed out !!

I see Alonso's show as a tradegy and couldnt give a stuff how Alonso overtook and overtook after he won his title!!!!! Its :oops: ....

Long live Motogp and Rossi.

Catchya on the highway

Hudsonhawk
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Now that I think of it they will for sure (they actually don’t have to detonate it at all, just report to FIA they are changing it).
Everything maybe isnt as it seems!!! Can Kimi truely be fortunate enough to have his engine let go so many times on the first couple of days of a GP ?

manchild
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Hudsonhawk wrote:You know......There is a flip side to Alonso's drive......It shows he is a weak champion.....He put nothing on the line.
How do you mean putting nothing on the line? He had put his own ambitions on the line during whole season for the benefit of the team, driving wisely and wasn't possessive as Kimi was. Would you be satisfied if he was turning off rev limiter and blowing out engine in races where he had slower car and DNF just to prove that he is trying to achieve impossible? What would be the point of that?

And this race in Japan... he put a lot on the line for the team only. Risky overtaking like the one in 130R and than the one on grass over Webber including the whole afford during the race was exceptional. What else could he done?! Don’t tell me that Kimi put more effort during Japanese GP…

It took much more effort from Alonso to win this title than any MS titles won in Ferrari.

I could agree that he is a “weak” champion but than you'd have to admit that last “strong” champions were Senna and Prost and in cars that were really difficult to drive without TC, sequential gearbox etc. But if we'd follow that logic than Senna and Prost could be called "weak" champions compared to Jackie Stewart or Jim Clark.

I agree that less racing in less safe car = grater effort and stronger champion but you can’t blame champions from succeeding eras that they are weak simply because technology enabled more safety and less effort.

manchild
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Hudsonhawk wrote:Everything maybe isnt as it seems!!! Can Kimi truely be fortunate enough to have his engine let go so many times on the first couple of days of a GP ?
Since their car became fastest in the second half of the season it seams to be an advantage (taking -10) because they can run fresh "one race engine" on each race.

jaslfc
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manchild wrote:It took much more effort from Alonso to win this title than any MS titles won in Ferrari.
hey i know u hate ferrari and shumacher but pls. u have to admit that they worked hard to win the titles.. it was the other teams that didnt match ferraris pace in 2002 and 2004. but the other years the worked hard for the titles.