Montoya To NASCAR In '07

[manchild]

He is out, it is official. Indy 2006 was his last race in F1. Pedro will drive at French GP and during the rest of the season.

http://www.f1technical.net/news/3487

[jgredline]

It will be interesting to see how DeLarosa does next to Kimi.
In testing he has always been faster. We will now see.

[Lightspeed]

Compared to F1, NASCAR is like a barnyard project by a couple of school kids..bumping& driving around in circles...LOL.. GREAT progression for Monty.....

This move will perhaps be the single most significant safety improvement measure for the F1 grid.

IMHO Kimi beating/humiliating Montoya soooo clearly has something to do with this as well.

[jgredline]

Compared to F1, NASCAR is like a barnyard project by a couple of school kids..bumping& driving around in circles...LOL.. GREAT progression for Monty.....

This move will perhaps be the single most significant safety improvement measure for the F1 grid.

IMHO Kimi beating/humiliating Montoya soooo clearly has something to do with this as well.

I can tell that you are a well educated man.

[DaveKillens]

I agree jgredline. Although the technical level of the cars in NASCAR may appear agricultural and ancient, it's a tough and smart bunch in NASCAR who use as much as they can in the most competitive regime in pro motorsport.
Although some old movies may portray NASCAR as a bunch of dumb rednecks, once again, that's just stereotyping.
For example, the rules stipulate just two valves per cylinder, they are able to attain over 8,000 RPM and reliably for over 500 miles. Trust me, great engineering on old technology.

[Scuderia_Russ]

I also heard from a good source that Nascar is paying most of if not all his salary for the next year and its much more than he was making in F1.

I read he is taking a 50% pay cut backed up by quotes from the horses mouth saying that it's not about how much you earn, it's about whether you are happy or not etc.

NASCAR is not a step down from F1. Its differant, but not a step down.

That might be the view in the U.S. but not in Europe it isn't.

[Scuderia_Russ]

...BTW, everyone seems to be forgetting a very quick Englishman by the name of Gary Paffet.

[Scuderia_Russ]

I agree jgredline. Although the technical level of the cars in NASCAR may appear agricultural and ancient, it's a tough and smart bunch in NASCAR who use as much as they can in the most competitive regime in pro motorsport.
Although some old movies may portray NASCAR as a bunch of dumb rednecks, once again, that's just stereotyping.
For example, the rules stipulate just two valves per cylinder, they are able to attain over 8,000 RPM and reliably for over 500 miles. Trust me, great engineering on old technology.

*A bit O/T here but bear with me...

Personally not only does the spectacle have to go a long way to improving before I would tune in, but the people do too. You can argue that Schumacher's mishap at Rascasse was cheating, but you can't argue with what is printed in the news section of Race Car Engineering every month. For example:

-Nextel Cup crew chief Chad Knaus was fined $25,000 by NASCAR, barred from attending four races and placed on probation until the end of the year for illegally tampering with the sway bar adjuster, to help push the rear window outwards to assist with aerodynamics.

-Robert Yates Racing crew chief Richard Labbe was suspended by NASCAR for four races and fined £25,000 after an illegal sway bar was found discovered prior to the Richmond race. It was mounted in a manner that raised the rear of the car, increasing its downforce.

-NASCAR fined two crew members after the Phoenix round of the Nextel Cup. David Hyder, a crew chief at Wood Bros. Racing, was caught using a space heater to warm his cars' tyres on the pit road and was handed a fine for $5,000

-In the Busch series, Biagi Motorsports' crew member Nathan Homick was found to be in possesion of unused NASCAR seals, of the type used by officials to seal components in technical inspection to ensure that they are not tampered with. Being caught in possesion of unused carburettor seals cost Homick $5,000 and he is now banned indefinetely from the series.


...That's alot of dishonesty for such a God fearing country like the U.S, and that was only the last couple of issues of Racecar.

[JimmyK]

It will be interesting to see how DeLarosa does next to Kimi. In testing he has always been faster

In testing though, aren't the test drivers cars running at higher revs? As they don't need to worry about engine failures and the like?

Also, S_R, don't worry, we haven't forgotten about Paffet, I think I said earlier that he would be very likely to get the seat next year.

[flynfrog]

That might be the view in the U.S. but not in Europe it isn't.

the veiw of f1 in the states is that its a bunch of over priced pit stops not racing

any top for of racing takes alot of skill id be willing to bet most people here have never raced on an oval you should try it one screwup and you are 4 places down or in the wall an oval is a scary place no run off ect. And if you think its just driving in a circle you are showing your ignorace


also next year nascar is updating there aero they are getting real wings and a chin splitter

both will be closly regulated

i would rather seem them required to use show room blocks and bodies then see what they can do but they are far to concered about being fair and keeping all the teams equal


personaly id rather watch sprint car racing

700 hp 1500 pounds (maybe) then let them loose on dirt with no mirrors lots of over taking realy not to many wrecks alot of the top drivers at indy came from here

[West]

Overpriced pit stops... I like that one

The action is closer in NASCAR, and I don't even remotely like NASCAR. However, I respect what it has achieved - highest viewed racing in America, close racing, advertising frenzy, and most importantly, it cares about the fans. Why do you think there's a sh*tload of shows on NASCAR? Cuz people want more. I personally hate how many NASCAR shows flood Speed TV but that's just due to the popularity of the sport.

F1 is great itself, but it's much more apparent in this series that money wins it all. You can never really tell if Christian Albers or Tiago Monteiro are good drivers because they're stuck in the back of the pack... they are pretty much there to fill the grid, much like the rest of the have-nots. A lot of people in America don't even like open wheelers because they don't look like something you can drive on the road.

F1 would be a much greater sport if there were more than two drivers vying for the championship every year.

[Spencifer_Murphy]

Thought you guys might like to read ashortish article about JPM's exit from F1:

http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type ... O_ID=36595

Its written by James Allen (The guy who co-commentates with Martin Brundle on ITV's F1 coverage)

I still stand by my prediction that (Assuming Toyota are in a similar position in F1 as they are now - just a bit faster - and JPM wins a NASCAR Title in Chip Ganassi's Toyota cars) in 2009 or 2010 JPM will be back in F1 in a Toyota. Or at least his entry in F1 will be backed by Toyota in some way.

[RH1300S]

And pigs might fly.............

I for one would love to see a flying pig soon

In F1 terms Monty will be history in no time at all. There are plenty of fast and cheap young guns around. I think it's a crime that Monty has gone and guys like Ralph Schumacher still have a job (good manager for you I guess...), even Trulli shouldn't be higher up the tree than Monty.

[joseff]

And a commentary from the other side:

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/feature ... index.html

Read to the bottom, you'll see some entertaining readers' replies.

[Venom]

Read to the bottom, you'll see some entertaining readers' replies.

VERY entertaining