2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc. TV coverage and other personal questions should be in Off topic chat.
Spoutnik
Spoutnik
6
Joined: 03 Feb 2015, 19:02

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Juzh wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 19:29
slightly off topic but I still haven't gotten used to looking at these clumsy and heavy boats

compared to this 2020 q3 lap they just look (and sound) silly. i don't understand how fom managed to completely f**k up onboard sounds to such degree.
https://streamable.com/ckxsp8
Compared to this

jrionegro
jrionegro
0
Joined: 26 Jan 2014, 20:58

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Alonso race simulation times ay the end of test put me think he will be a very serious podium candidate.

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Image

BlueCheetah66
BlueCheetah66
33
Joined: 13 Jul 2021, 20:23

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Spoutnik wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 20:52
Juzh wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 19:29
slightly off topic but I still haven't gotten used to looking at these clumsy and heavy boats

compared to this 2020 q3 lap they just look (and sound) silly. i don't understand how fom managed to completely f**k up onboard sounds to such degree.
https://streamable.com/ckxsp8
Compared to this
Turn 4 this year looks so much slower.

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Image

Alpine do a little bit of sandbagging

thestig84
thestig84
10
Joined: 19 Nov 2009, 13:09

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Spoutnik wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 20:50
kediown wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 20:04
Juzh wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 19:29
slightly off topic but I still haven't gotten used to looking at these clumsy and heavy boats

compared to this 2020 q3 lap they just look (and sound) silly. i don't understand how fom managed to completely f**k up onboard sounds to such degree.
https://streamable.com/ckxsp8
Indeed. 2021 Onboards are fine too, but now everything feels slow and heavy in the current onboards
Don't like these boats, especially through the slow section (S2)... The worst is ofc at Monaco
Boats? Come on...... far more like oil tankers. They are horrible to watch, just don't look alive at all and (personally) it does hinder the excitement of watching them. Still can't believe Ross Brawn was bragging about how the old generation with rake looked awful and these were low and like real racing cars :roll: .

User avatar
Vanja #66
1572
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Isola: 2023 tyres 1.5s faster

These three days of testing were precious for the teams, the drivers and also for us. The teams were able to fine-tune the set-up of the cars in view of next week's race weekend and the drivers had time to familiarize themselves with the new construction in the Pirelli range, this year enriched by an additional compound which will be used in the Bahrain GP. The lap times recorded today are surprising because this year's tires are on average 1.5 seconds faster than the same compounds from 2022. The figure is even more significant on a track like Sakhir, where traction and braking prevail but there are no corners that require the tires to take up long periods of time. Even the new C1, which could be the protagonist in the race in a week's time, was positively received by all the teams for the good performances it showed. With a wider range of tyres, we now have more flexibility in choosing and will be able to name the most suitable compounds for each circuit
AeroGimli.x

And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 22:59
Isola: 2023 tyres 1.5s faster

These three days of testing were precious for the teams, the drivers and also for us. The teams were able to fine-tune the set-up of the cars in view of next week's race weekend and the drivers had time to familiarize themselves with the new construction in the Pirelli range, this year enriched by an additional compound which will be used in the Bahrain GP. The lap times recorded today are surprising because this year's tires are on average 1.5 seconds faster than the same compounds from 2022. The figure is even more significant on a track like Sakhir, where traction and braking prevail but there are no corners that require the tires to take up long periods of time. Even the new C1, which could be the protagonist in the race in a week's time, was positively received by all the teams for the good performances it showed. With a wider range of tyres, we now have more flexibility in choosing and will be able to name the most suitable compounds for each circuit
So after a decade, Pirelli finally did a GREAT job. Now they want to throw it all in the bin to make a brand new product that doesn't require blankets for 2024. #-o
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
Vanja #66
1572
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

I don't think it will pass. Full wets are one thing, dry tyres without heating are dangerous...
AeroGimli.x

And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

User avatar
Redragon
19
Joined: 24 May 2011, 12:23

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 23:22
Vanja #66 wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 22:59
Isola: 2023 tyres 1.5s faster

These three days of testing were precious for the teams, the drivers and also for us. The teams were able to fine-tune the set-up of the cars in view of next week's race weekend and the drivers had time to familiarize themselves with the new construction in the Pirelli range, this year enriched by an additional compound which will be used in the Bahrain GP. The lap times recorded today are surprising because this year's tires are on average 1.5 seconds faster than the same compounds from 2022. The figure is even more significant on a track like Sakhir, where traction and braking prevail but there are no corners that require the tires to take up long periods of time. Even the new C1, which could be the protagonist in the race in a week's time, was positively received by all the teams for the good performances it showed. With a wider range of tyres, we now have more flexibility in choosing and will be able to name the most suitable compounds for each circuit
So after a decade, Pirelli finally did a GREAT job. Now they want to throw it all in the bin to make a brand new product that doesn't require blankets for 2024. #-o
They do what F1 ask them, energy and cost saving is more behind the reasons to create tyres that don’t require blankets

F1doc
F1doc
9
Joined: 25 Feb 2021, 09:09

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Redragon wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 00:03
They do what F1 ask them, energy and cost saving is more behind the reasons to create tyres that don’t require blankets
The energy saving is negligible or offset by the fuel needed to run the car round longer for more warm up laps and get the tyres to a working range in order to set a flying lap.

User avatar
JordanMugen
85
Joined: 17 Oct 2018, 13:36

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Juzh wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 19:29
slightly off topic but I still haven't gotten used to looking at these clumsy and heavy boats
Half of the 50kg weight increase from 2021 is for safety and would have been added anyway. So it's only ~25kg that relates to the 18" wheels, tyres and covers. :)

So even with the old regulations + safety improvements including larger minimum cockpit dimensions you still would have been looking at about 752+25=777kg.

kediown wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 20:04
now everything feels slow and heavy in the current onboards
The hydraulic suspension was unnecessary and hard for the FIA to scrutinise legality, so I think it is quite reasonable to ban that and mandate less sophisticated suspension systems. Why should an F1 car have more sophisticated ride and handling than F2? If the F2 cars are difficult to handle and need *driving* and *coaxing* why not F1 cars? Why should F1 cars be easy to drive in low speed corners with perfectly behaved suspension?

After all, F2 had the 18" wheels for two seasons in advance and overall it was not a big deal and made little to no difference from 13" there. If was quite fun to see the already stiffly-sprung F2 cars lift wheels around Monaco on their 18" tyres! :)

User avatar
Redragon
19
Joined: 24 May 2011, 12:23

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

F1doc wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 01:29
Redragon wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 00:03
They do what F1 ask them, energy and cost saving is more behind the reasons to create tyres that don’t require blankets
The energy saving is negligible or offset by the fuel needed to run the car round longer for more warm up laps and get the tyres to a working range in order to set a flying lap.
That's why Pirelli is asked to do a compound that warms up faster as the blankets are going to be banned

User avatar
Chuckjr
38
Joined: 24 Feb 2012, 08:34
Location: USA

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

Wouter wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 19:47
Alonso's current mood. :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp1FGSIXgAY ... name=small
The man is ready to kick Merc’s ass.😎
Watching F1 since 1986.

User avatar
langedweil
0
Joined: 23 Mar 2018, 20:51
Location: Caribbean

Re: 2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

Post

AMG.Tzan wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 17:41
-2022 Bahrain GP pole: 1.30.558
-Testing best lap right now: 1.30.305

Tasty! 👌
That's sweet !
Only 3yrs ago pole was 1:27.2 .. so we have some way to go.
HuggaWugga !