2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Wouter]

Ola Källenius ( Chairman of the Board of Management and CEO of the Mercedes-Benz Group) is willing to pay €100 million
for Max's buyout.
This video is in German, but you can choose any subtitle language you prefer in the settings.

Edit: It seems the subtitels are in English.

.
What's the actual source of this information, though?

.
What do you mean. He said so much. The info about Källenius?

[Vettel165]

Rumours.

[Wouter]

Rumours.

https://postimg.cc/ZCnMg4PW

.
No rumours! This is FAKE news! Read at the bottom "According to the Telegraaf.
There was nothing about this in The Telegraaf!

[Watto]

Yep, fake

[Seanspeed]

Ola Källenius ( Chairman of the Board of Management and CEO of the Mercedes-Benz Group) is willing to pay €100 million
for Max's buyout.
This video is in German, but you can choose any subtitle language you prefer in the settings.

Edit: It seems the subtitels are in English.

.
What's the actual source of this information, though?

.
What do you mean. He said so much. The info about Källenius?

Well I haven't seen the source of the information. Why would you post a Youtuber commentary video instead of the actual source?

Can you provide a link? I dont speak/read good German and obviously auto-translate services are very shaky.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Rumours.

https://postimg.cc/ZCnMg4PW

Every version of his escape clauses is either the end of the month of Summer break anyway.

If they're going to make stuff up, they could at least make it fit the current rumours lol

[Wouter]

.
What's the actual source of this information, though?

.
What do you mean. He said so much. The info about Källenius?

.
Well I haven't seen the source of the information. Why would you post a Youtuber commentary video instead of the actual source?

Can you provide a link? I dont speak/read good German and obviously auto-translate services are very shaky.

.
Sources, links? This man is a graduate engineer, has raced and karted himself, and has been deeply involved in F1 for 25 years.

He gathers all the information on the subject and shares it after verifying it. Everything Källenius said was in the news.
All F1 sites wrote about it. La Gazzetta dello Sport was the source.

He's very objective and only shares information, posting not for clicks. Decide for yourself if you want to listen.

[DJ Downforce]

God knows.

A dry Silverstone would have been nice to see if they were a good upgrade. I think the wet and the setup configuration they run shadowed that a lot.

Still a podium car though I’d have said that weekend. (Without max spinning out)

Yea it’s was a pity that we couldn’t see how Max faired against the Mclarens in the dry, however that didn’t stop me from enjoying the result nonetheless

I’d imagine it’ll just be status quo from a competitive point of view.
Let’s say Red Bull bring 2 more upgrades.
McLaren will run their new floor in Spa and I think there is one more small upgrade to come.
Ferrari have their super duper race winning suspension to come.
And I think I’ve read Merc will be bringing 2 more upgrades- then it’s the summer break and surely no one will be signing off any more upstages for 2025 after that.

I don’t think Mclaren will be as strong at the remaining higher speed tracks so if Max can utilise the Silverstone set up again else where then there should be something for the Red Bull crew to celebrate

At this stage, no upgrade they bring can be worth more than 0.05s and even that if it works perfectly. Given Mclaren advantage over the rest of the nothing is gonna be different till the end of the year.
The only way Mclaren can not win a race looking just as fast or slower than any of their rivals is if they underperform and fail to extract the best out of their car, which I am sure was the case in all of the races they didn't win this year, plus Jeddah. Everyone could now see their advantage is not only when it is hot and has barely anything to do with cold rear tires. If they had cold rear tires they would be struggling badly in cold wet silverstone but their dominance looked bigger than ever before.
Their car is the most dominant car we have seen since W11. No single weakness whatsoever, not mentioning the drivers of course. It should win all upcoming races not sweating too much. At this point only mclaren fans can downplay the extent of their car advantage, trying to create fake expectations for the rest of the year hyping up the rivals and their updates, as if Mclaren haven’t been bringing any. Easy to see why so…

I think you'll find it's the most dominant car since RB19. Even Perez was p2 in that rocket ship.

W11 wasn't that dominant, it was more Hamilton making the difference as evidenced by Bottas almost being p3. Hamilton made the difference in 2023 too almost beating Perez

[avantman]

Yea it’s was a pity that we couldn’t see how Max faired against the Mclarens in the dry, however that didn’t stop me from enjoying the result nonetheless

I’d imagine it’ll just be status quo from a competitive point of view.
Let’s say Red Bull bring 2 more upgrades.
McLaren will run their new floor in Spa and I think there is one more small upgrade to come.
Ferrari have their super duper race winning suspension to come.
And I think I’ve read Merc will be bringing 2 more upgrades- then it’s the summer break and surely no one will be signing off any more upstages for 2025 after that.

I don’t think Mclaren will be as strong at the remaining higher speed tracks so if Max can utilise the Silverstone set up again else where then there should be something for the Red Bull crew to celebrate

At this stage, no upgrade they bring can be worth more than 0.05s and even that if it works perfectly. Given Mclaren advantage over the rest of the nothing is gonna be different till the end of the year.
The only way Mclaren can not win a race looking just as fast or slower than any of their rivals is if they underperform and fail to extract the best out of their car, which I am sure was the case in all of the races they didn't win this year, plus Jeddah. Everyone could now see their advantage is not only when it is hot and has barely anything to do with cold rear tires. If they had cold rear tires they would be struggling badly in cold wet silverstone but their dominance looked bigger than ever before.
Their car is the most dominant car we have seen since W11. No single weakness whatsoever, not mentioning the drivers of course. It should win all upcoming races not sweating too much. At this point only mclaren fans can downplay the extent of their car advantage, trying to create fake expectations for the rest of the year hyping up the rivals and their updates, as if Mclaren haven’t been bringing any. Easy to see why so…

I think you'll find it's the most dominant car since RB19. Even Perez was p2 in that rocket ship.

W11 wasn't that dominant, it was more Hamilton making the difference as evidenced by Bottas almost being p3. Hamilton made the difference in 2023 too almost beating Perez

"Even Perez" was P2 exactly 2 times in the 2nd half of the season and he finished within the top 2 just 4 times in the 1st half of the season, 6 times in total over the whole season of 22 races.
Even Norris already finished within the top 2 on 9 occasions in the Mclaren and even Piastri did that already 7 times out of 12 attempts (we are at middle of the season exactly right now)
Even Bottas was P2 or P1 8 times over a short season of just 17 races. Should I mention that "Even Bottas" was P2 in the end of the year?

[WardenOfTheNorth]

I'm not going to justify the site's apparent clickbait with a link, but I saw what seems like the most outrageous theory yet just now.

In order to keep Max, Red Bull will let him rename Racing Bulls however he wants....

[DJ Downforce]

At this stage, no upgrade they bring can be worth more than 0.05s and even that if it works perfectly. Given Mclaren advantage over the rest of the nothing is gonna be different till the end of the year.
The only way Mclaren can not win a race looking just as fast or slower than any of their rivals is if they underperform and fail to extract the best out of their car, which I am sure was the case in all of the races they didn't win this year, plus Jeddah. Everyone could now see their advantage is not only when it is hot and has barely anything to do with cold rear tires. If they had cold rear tires they would be struggling badly in cold wet silverstone but their dominance looked bigger than ever before.
Their car is the most dominant car we have seen since W11. No single weakness whatsoever, not mentioning the drivers of course. It should win all upcoming races not sweating too much. At this point only mclaren fans can downplay the extent of their car advantage, trying to create fake expectations for the rest of the year hyping up the rivals and their updates, as if Mclaren haven’t been bringing any. Easy to see why so…

I think you'll find it's the most dominant car since RB19. Even Perez was p2 in that rocket ship.

W11 wasn't that dominant, it was more Hamilton making the difference as evidenced by Bottas almost being p3. Hamilton made the difference in 2023 too almost beating Perez

"Even Perez" was P2 exactly 2 times in the 2nd half of the season and he finished within the top 2 just 4 times in the 1st half of the season, 6 times in total over the whole season of 22 races.
Even Norris already finished within the top 2 on 9 occasions in the Mclaren and even Piastri did that already 7 times out of 12 attempts (we are at middle of the season exactly right now)
Even Bottas was P2 or P1 8 times over a short season of just 17 races. Should I mention that "Even Bottas" was P2 in the end of the year?

Bottas was touted as a future WDC before Hamilton destroyed him.

Before Hamilton, Bottas embarrassed Massa and was seen as a great driver. The Hamilton factor degraded his mental health over the years.

Perez couldn't even beat Ocon convincingly

[TNTHead]

Is this relevant for this thread? I guess not.

[FrukostScones]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formu ... andal.html

BILD via DM


So Max is in on this? No pigeon shooting... no Mercedes then.

[basti313]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formu ... andal.html

BILD via DM


So Max is in on this? No pigeon shooting... no Mercedes then.

One of these articles, that put everything into one bowl, mix it and let ChatGPT (as the TheRace video above) produce some text. There is no real common thread visible, classic AI text production.

Interesting part is the Spielberg meeting link. Everything else...dunno...

[WardenOfTheNorth]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formu ... andal.html

BILD via DM


So Max is in on this? No pigeon shooting... no Mercedes then.

If the Daily Mail had a headline that the Earth is a globe, I'd be double checking....