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[Hammerfist]

Toto: We thought that the Soft tyre would give Lewis an advantage at the start but that turned out to be the wrong decision. With our challenges managing the rear surfaces, we went backwards.

How? What possible metric could have given them any indication Softs are gonna do them any good?

This level of team bs-ing themselves makes Binotto look like a no-bs, hard core realist

I think it was discussed earlier but they must have thought the race leader would drive off the pace a la Monaco for example. Problem is Lando decided he wanted to embarrass Max and Redbull and he pullled away at an alarming rate. So starting on softs became an idiotic decision. They could have survived if lando drove at snail pace though.

[SKYnRacing24]

With things being as they are at the moment, the upgrade at Austin will be very telling for Mercedes' short-term future. If they're still lost after that, surely that's an omen for 2025 as well. That's a car which probably has been in development for a while now, but what if they were missled by their initial ill-based strides in the mid-season during the development of the 2025 car?

If Mercedes continues to be incognito on the fight at the top for the 4th year running into this regulation set, things have to change there.

Nicely said Emag, The fact they have gone down a blind alley and this car has become undrivable is quite worrying (and this being a Ham fan but want to see Russell do well). It will be interesting to see the characteristics of the W16. Ultimately this car doesn't have good traits. The race pace is one highlight that i thought would be a strength of the W15 but hasn't transpired on most weekends and when it does its because of specific track conditions and tyres. If they do a 22/23 situation again then the nails are in the coffin.

Someone mentioned a months back if this was any other TP they would of been fired by now. Toto being a shareholder could be the catalyst but im just speculating of course. The Austin Upgrade will be the last bullet in the chamber for this year and potentially next. Theres alot riding on this so it will be a stressful period for everyone involved, I hope we can have a good end to the season but the strategic incompetence on display for Lewis today really left a bitter taste in my mouth.

How comes us armchair viewers can read the race or strategy better in more ways than one. Some of us have live timing and can see the race developing in real time yet these guys on the pitwall,engineers and people back at base are not making logical decisions, it really is weird, This is the pinnacle of motorsport but sometimes it looks so amateur.

[PlatinumZealot]

Dear lord what a complete garbage dump this thread has become. Gets worse race by race. Unbelievable.

Is it forum traffic that is prioritized no matter what or what is it?

Exactly. On the Ferrari & Rb threads they have good amateur data analysts & “experts” who contribute regularly & sort of up the contributing standards, in the Merc we’ve got some of the dumbest musings anywhere on this forum. It’s a problem

Are you one of those contibutors? Can you point us to your profound data analyses in this thread?