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Honestly can't see putting Lewis on Softs as anything other than hinderance. Mercedes isn't aware W15 lacks pace and chews up tyres regardless after 17 races? Right...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Quantum wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:12
PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:09
Quantum wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 16:34


Lewis will be taking Sainz seat. And will find himself in these situations. Pretty straightforward.
So Sainz's seat is a number 2 job role at Ferrari?
Strange . So are you saying Lewis signed up to be Leclerc's Number 2?
Eh? Who said Lewis is number 2?
For that matter, who said Sainz is number 2?
Strange indeed.

I said Lewis will find himself in these situations. Do you disagree?
Well obviously all teams will tell a driver to let teammate through so no different if a situation where it’s needed. Silly statement.

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ToffeeTyres wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:32
Quantum wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:12
PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:09


So Sainz's seat is a number 2 job role at Ferrari?
Strange . So are you saying Lewis signed up to be Leclerc's Number 2?
Eh? Who said Lewis is number 2?
For that matter, who said Sainz is number 2?
Strange indeed.

I said Lewis will find himself in these situations. Do you disagree?
Well obviously all teams will tell a driver to let teammate through so no different if a situation where it’s needed. Silly statement.
Clearly some people struggle with it.
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And people were crying because Bono wasn't going to Ferrari with him, he's useless FFS! What an abysmal race from Hamilton, Russell will end up beating him this season and will go down as the superior driver, 2-1.

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DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:54
And people were crying because Bono wasn't going to Ferrari with him, he's useless FFS! What an abysmal race from Hamilton, Russell will end up beating him this season and will go down as the superior driver, 2-1.
Bono is not responsible for strategy.
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AR3-GP wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:05
DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 17:54
And people were crying because Bono wasn't going to Ferrari with him, he's useless FFS! What an abysmal race from Hamilton, Russell will end up beating him this season and will go down as the superior driver, 2-1.
Bono is not responsible for strategy.
He is poor nevertheless, Lewis is also a fool. How on god's earth did he think that was a good idea?

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Just going to ignore Lewis's awful pace on the hards?

Leclerc backed up GR to within a few seconds of Lewis. GR then proceeded to pull a gap of 24 seconds by the end of the race. In no universe was Lewis finishing ahead of GR.
His setup was obviously biased towards one lap pace, which probably explains the rare quali "win" over his teammate.

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Matt2725 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:32
Just going to ignore Lewis's awful pace on the hards?

Leclerc backed up GR to within a few seconds of Lewis. GR then proceeded to pull a gap of 24 seconds by the end of the race. In no universe was Lewis finishing ahead of GR.
His setup was obviously biased towards one lap pace, which probably explains the rare quali "win" over his teammate.
Discount how old was Lewis's tyre was compared to George or, what he would have achieved if gap was less?
Just try to paint bad picture as usual as if what happened was Hamilton's fault totally.
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Dear lord what a complete garbage dump this thread has become. Gets worse race by race. Unbelievable.

Is it forum traffic that is prioritized no matter what or what is it?

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Matt2725 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:32
His setup was obviously biased towards one lap pace, which probably explains the rare quali "win" over his teammate.
I don't think Hamilton tunes a car for 1 lap ever. He's just very good in Singapore, like Silverstone. It's doubtful that the car was particularly good this weekend. I think it's more of an illusion because you have a Hamilton who is always good on 1 lap here, and you have a Russell who is also very good on 1 lap.

The race pace was simply diabolical. They had nothing for Red Bull, let alone the UFO that won the race.
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xaero wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:35
Matt2725 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:32
Just going to ignore Lewis's awful pace on the hards?

Leclerc backed up GR to within a few seconds of Lewis. GR then proceeded to pull a gap of 24 seconds by the end of the race. In no universe was Lewis finishing ahead of GR.
His setup was obviously biased towards one lap pace, which probably explains the rare quali "win" over his teammate.
Discount how old was Lewis's tyre was compared to George or, what he would have achieved if gap was less?
Just try to paint bad picture as usual as if what happened was Hamilton's fault totally.
George was faster than Lewis after Lewis was put on fresh hards and he was still on his mediums.
For a circuit where the undercut is powerful, he managed to overcut Hamilton quite convincingly.

Lewis had no pace for whatever reason. Be it setup or otherwise.

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Its flat out incompetence tbh but Hamilton needs to hold his hands up aswell. The worrying thing is the car is straight up 4th best. I don't see this car having the race pace to compete at the front and the strategy can't maximise the potential either. Poor job from everyone involved and deserve to finish 4th in the WCC
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Tvetovnato wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:35
Dear lord what a complete garbage dump this thread has become. Gets worse race by race. Unbelievable.

Is it forum traffic that is prioritized no matter what or what is it?
Exactly. On the Ferrari & Rb threads they have good amateur data analysts & “experts” who contribute regularly & sort of up the contributing standards, in the Merc we’ve got some of the dumbest musings anywhere on this forum. It’s a problem
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214270 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:53
Tvetovnato wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:35
Dear lord what a complete garbage dump this thread has become. Gets worse race by race. Unbelievable.

Is it forum traffic that is prioritized no matter what or what is it?
Exactly. On the Ferrari & Rb threads they have good amateur data analysts & “experts” who contribute regularly & sort of up the contributing standards, in the Merc we’ve got some of the dumbest musings anywhere on this forum. It’s a problem
Very easy to understand….

It’s because Hamilton has a lot of haters. More haters than most of the very top drivers have supporters.

So what happens is they come on the Merc thread just to find negative things to say, masquerading as George supporters.

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Matt2725 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:40
xaero wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:35
Matt2725 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:32
Just going to ignore Lewis's awful pace on the hards?

Leclerc backed up GR to within a few seconds of Lewis. GR then proceeded to pull a gap of 24 seconds by the end of the race. In no universe was Lewis finishing ahead of GR.
His setup was obviously biased towards one lap pace, which probably explains the rare quali "win" over his teammate.
Discount how old was Lewis's tyre was compared to George or, what he would have achieved if gap was less?
Just try to paint bad picture as usual as if what happened was Hamilton's fault totally.
George was faster than Lewis after Lewis was put on fresh hards and he was still on his mediums.
For a circuit where the undercut is powerful, he managed to overcut Hamilton quite convincingly.

Lewis had no pace for whatever reason. Be it setup or otherwise.
That's it and something we didn't see, Lewis had horrendous pace on the hards. The undercut was massive today but Lewis ended up losing around 6 secs to an overcut. It seems as though when Lewis beats Russell in qualifying his race pace is waaay off, I can recall the same in Japan this year.