2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Epic, epic deal made by Zack. He and the team have done a phenomenal job. Well deserved. Well done Macca. =D>
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Balalu wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 21:26
-wkst- wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 13:10
Where are the people now who claimed that McLaren doesn't want and need a title sponsor, because they would be so dependend on them? Or a sponsor doesn't fit into the McLaren brand? It's all a question of money and obviously now the right deal appeared for the team.

Things change. People, companies, groups, teams, etc. adapt and move on. You should try it.
Nothing changed, except that the right deal appeared (in the eyes of the officials) for McLaren.

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-wkst- wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 08:24
Balalu wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 21:26
-wkst- wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 13:10
Where are the people now who claimed that McLaren doesn't want and need a title sponsor, because they would be so dependend on them? Or a sponsor doesn't fit into the McLaren brand? It's all a question of money and obviously now the right deal appeared for the team.

Things change. People, companies, groups, teams, etc. adapt and move on. You should try it.
Nothing changed, except that the right deal appeared (in the eyes of the officials) for McLaren.
Things obviously did change because the right offer wasn't there and Mclaren hadn't even secured the WCC this time last year.

Whereas we look nailed on for back to back WCC and to get the WDC and the likes of RB are imploding and appear to be panicking about their engine next year.

We had no chance of these numbers back then. The whole market Landscape is hugely different now.

We gave Oscar a 15m pay rise this season, bonus payouts will be bigger, internal salary costs will grow...

So much has changed.

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-wkst- wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 08:24
Balalu wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 21:26
-wkst- wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 13:10
Where are the people now who claimed that McLaren doesn't want and need a title sponsor, because they would be so dependend on them? Or a sponsor doesn't fit into the McLaren brand? It's all a question of money and obviously now the right deal appeared for the team.

Things change. People, companies, groups, teams, etc. adapt and move on. You should try it.
Nothing changed, except that the right deal appeared (in the eyes of the officials) for McLaren.
At that time a title sponsorship would be a big mistake because the deal would be worth much less. They have made themself worth a premium again and with that they have inked a proper deal that will give them financial stability for the future. By all means a master stroke by Zak.

I do wonder why you have to seek for a problem in this? Like they have betrayed humanity by getting this deal...
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Holm86 wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 19:00
Macklaren wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 18:46
De Wet wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 13:23
Hope they don't screw up the livery next year...
(un)fortunately Zak was quoted as saying the livery wont change much except to adapt to the '26 car
I would expect a few more shades of orange at the very most and repositioned sponsor names
It could also implement a bit more red, from the mastercard logo
https://bcassetcdn.com/public/blog/wp-c ... 4x683.webp

Personally I hope they can make something akin to the old Repsol liveries :D
https://www.hondacommunityjatim.net/ass ... 90_ori.jpg https://www.motorcyclenews.com/wp-image ... ery-22.jpg

I like the Orange, Red & White combo as well

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proteus wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 10:37
-wkst- wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 08:24
Balalu wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 21:26



Things change. People, companies, groups, teams, etc. adapt and move on. You should try it.
Nothing changed, except that the right deal appeared (in the eyes of the officials) for McLaren.
At that time a title sponsorship would be a big mistake because the deal would be worth much less. They have made themself worth a premium again and with that they have inked a proper deal that will give them financial stability for the future. By all means a master stroke by Zak.

I do wonder why you have to seek for a problem in this? Like they have betrayed humanity by getting this deal...
I have absolutely no problem with this, and I congratulate McLaren and their officials. But I can only laugh at the people who claimed for years that McLaren doesn't need and want a title sponsor because that would harm the brand or they would be to dependend on the title sponsors and once it's over again they would be in troubles.

Without a doubt they always wanted a title sponsor and now the conditions are right for their officials. :!:

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-wkst- wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 11:26
proteus wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 10:37
-wkst- wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 08:24


Nothing changed, except that the right deal appeared (in the eyes of the officials) for McLaren.
At that time a title sponsorship would be a big mistake because the deal would be worth much less. They have made themself worth a premium again and with that they have inked a proper deal that will give them financial stability for the future. By all means a master stroke by Zak.

I do wonder why you have to seek for a problem in this? Like they have betrayed humanity by getting this deal...
I have absolutely no problem with this, and I congratulate McLaren and their officials. But I can only laugh at the people who claimed for years that McLaren doesn't need and want a title sponsor because that would harm the brand or they would be to dependend on the title sponsors and once it's over again they would be in troubles.

Without a doubt they always wanted a title sponsor and now the conditions are right for their officials. :!:
I think there has been a missunderstanding on your part. It wasn't the people saying it, it was coming from McLaren themselves. They also never said they didn't want a title sponsor, they just weren't desperate to look for one when brand value was low after the 2015-2018 hiatus.

If you read what Zak had to say about it back in 2021, he explained the situation quite clearly and what their strategy when it came to sponsors/partners was :

“Would we do a title deal? We would. Are we actively pursuing it? No. Do I want to sell title level branding? Yes.

“But I want us to be known as McLaren. I like our colour. I think it has really resonated with the fans who are critically important to us and so our business model is built upon doing what we are doing which is bringing on great partners but not needing a title sponsor.”
Now they came to a point where a title level branding was finally worth selling, and they did. It was just a matter of waiting for the right deal while exploiting a different business model of employing a larger number of "smaller" partners, unlike other F1 teams.
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I think some in here did say they didn't "need" one, but need to some people probably meant we were already profitable, whereas others would think suggest that if you asked a business if they need more profit, they'd all say yes.

But even so, it's just an opinion, so what?

Feels like this individual got burnt in a conversation with someone who didn't agree with their point of view, and now we are "laughing" at people with this opinion.

Except, don't we all have opinions that turn out not to be accurate? So, what exactly is the big deal? This is a few pages of very ridiculous conversation :lol:
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Turning the page, FP1 looking dominant though hard to tell with a scrappy session for everyone and variable weather all weekend

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We are saving an extra set of hards for the race and maybe are looking to get through Q on four sets of softs.
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mwillems wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 12:31
We are saving an extra set of hards for the race and maybe are looking to get through Q on four sets of softs.
So Q1 and 2 on 1 set each? How's track evolution looking? Or the weather for that matter, still the rain is holding off.

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BMMR61 wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 12:34
mwillems wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 12:31
We are saving an extra set of hards for the race and maybe are looking to get through Q on four sets of softs.
So Q1 and 2 on 1 set each? How's track evolution looking? Or the weather for that matter, still the rain is holding off.
Evolving fast. No idea about the weather but looks fine. They will likely do some laps on used tyres. Just 4 laps on new tyres.
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Only practice but as strong as we have ever looked on raw pace. Balance in a league of its own.

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😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 that is some serious pace