2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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CRazyLemon wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:28
Really rough interview from Lewis. Hard to hear.


In a way I'm grateful we have another break after this.

Hamilton needs some time to rest and mentally get himself together. During the last "break" they spent a lot of time working so I wouldn't consider it a real break.

It's tough to see him like this. When I was in my 20s he was the driver that felt invincible. But he just needs to keep at it and things will get better, it won't be this hard forever. Other drivers new to their teams are struggling too.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:36
CRazyLemon wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:28
Really rough interview from Lewis. Hard to hear.


In a way I'm grateful we have another break after this.

Hamilton needs some time to rest and mentally get himself together. During the last "break" they spent a lot of time working so I wouldn't consider it a real break.

It's tough to see him like this. When I was in my 20s he was the driver that felt invincible. But he just needs to keep at it and things will get better, it won't be this hard forever. Other drivers new to their teams are struggling too.
Oh man, I feel for him.

Come on Lewis, you got this.

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Luscion wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:13
What an odd quali, Ferrari were slow in Q2 cause of track temps, Mclaren were fastest in first part of q3 then lost pace on the second runs being affected by the wind. Good job by Charles regardless
The track temp didn't change so massively. It was more due to the setup choice, LEC opting for the lower/medium high DF-level 4 (Spain spec. RW) and HAM the level 5 (Monaco - spec), and maybe I could provide the proof of that further in the day ... The only proof is that LEC's top speed was 3kph higher, and maybe HAM chose this higher DF wing for a better tyre management ... I don't know had this setup choice or maybe the new updates (the floor and modified rear suspension) gave him such an understeer car in long radius corners and that massive snap in turn 13, as Davidson showed us on Sky, but this is something chronic about this car ... and that's why he was moaning saying "every time - every time"
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atanatizante wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:42
Luscion wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:13
What an odd quali, Ferrari were slow in Q2 cause of track temps, Mclaren were fastest in first part of q3 then lost pace on the second runs being affected by the wind. Good job by Charles regardless
The track temp didn't change so massively. It was more due to the setup choice, LEC opting for the lower/medium high DF-level 4 (Spain spec. RW) and HAM the level 5 (Monaco - spec), and maybe I could provide the proof of that further in the day ... The only proof is that LEC's top speed was 3kph higher, and maybe HAM chose this higher DF wing for a better tyre management ... I don't know had this setup choice or maybe the new updates (the floor and modified rear suspension) gave him such an understeer car in long radius corners and that massive snap in turn 13, as Davidson showed us on Sky, but this is something chronic about this car ... and that's why he was moaning saying "every time - every time"
I'm pretty sure track temps dropped by around 15 degrees, that is a lot

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:36
CRazyLemon wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:28
Really rough interview from Lewis. Hard to hear.


In a way I'm grateful we have another break after this.

Hamilton needs some time to rest and mentally get himself together. During the last "break" they spent a lot of time working so I wouldn't consider it a real break.

It's tough to see him like this. When I was in my 20s he was the driver that felt invincible. But he just needs to keep at it and things will get better, it won't be this hard forever. Other drivers new to their teams are struggling too.
And I thought Lando has bad mental when he's not performing well. Man, I do not like seeing him say that to himself :cry:

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Was that "vintage" Leclerc then?

I think yes.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:29
Xyz22 wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 16:54
Ferrari has less downforce than Aston Martin with the difference that it's way less draggy. Absolutely hilarious.
Do you think the lower downforce might help us stay ahead if it's dry?
In the first stint, LEC could hold stations due to track-specific, not to mention that he is some 4kph faster than both PIA and NOR ... but unfortunately in free air Macca boys are at least 2-3 tenths faster if not faster ... further more his setup choice, with a lower than usual DF levels for this track would force him to do more tyre management hence lower lap times ... so there are slim chances for a win for him, but bigger ones for a podium/3rd place ...
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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:36
CRazyLemon wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:28
Really rough interview from Lewis. Hard to hear.


In a way I'm grateful we have another break after this.

Hamilton needs some time to rest and mentally get himself together. During the last "break" they spent a lot of time working so I wouldn't consider it a real break.

It's tough to see him like this. When I was in my 20s he was the driver that felt invincible. But he just needs to keep at it and things will get better, it won't be this hard forever. Other drivers new to their teams are struggling too.
This is rough.
For the guy used to win all the time, record holder for wins, poles and WDC, this is tremendously sad.

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Sevach wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:49
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:36
CRazyLemon wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:28
Really rough interview from Lewis. Hard to hear.


In a way I'm grateful we have another break after this.

Hamilton needs some time to rest and mentally get himself together. During the last "break" they spent a lot of time working so I wouldn't consider it a real break.

It's tough to see him like this. When I was in my 20s he was the driver that felt invincible. But he just needs to keep at it and things will get better, it won't be this hard forever. Other drivers new to their teams are struggling too.
This is rough.
For the guy used to win all the time, record holder for wins, poles and WDC, this is tremendously sad.

This is just lewis when he doesnt do well sometimes, he said something similar in merc last year when he had a bad quali result, wears his heart on his sleeves more so than Norris

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dia6olo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:29
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 17:10
dia6olo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 16:47
Like I said last week, Hamilton is now not even close to the Hamilton that many know as a 7 time champion and Ferrari truly screwed up in bringing him in, at least as far as F1 goes, I have ZERO interest in the marketing pros, from an F1 perspective they messed up big time!
2026 will be very telling for Lewis.

Several commentators have mentioned that the ground effect cars do not suit Hamilton’s natural driving style. The new cars should be closer to what he prefers.

Now whether he should have been able to adapt or not is a whole other debate, but if the new regs don’t suit him then I don’t think anyone will be surprised to see him retire at the end of 2026.
For me, I think the reality is he is now to old, and the 2026 reg changes isn't going to change that.
I think he is still a capable driver and on his day could still produce something.
But, if I have to ask myself if he could trouble the current top drivers, those 3/4/5 drivers that have that something extra, I just don't see it, certainly not over a sting of weekends.

But alonso is much older and is still performing at a high level most weekends. We all hate to see Lewis like this but i guess everyone has a different shelf life. Vettel stopped being great in his early thirties.

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Do we know if the drivers ran different set ups?

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Hammerfist wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 18:00

But alonso is much older and is still performing at a high level most weekends. We all hate to see Lewis like this but i guess everyone has a different shelf life. Vettel stopped being great in his early thirties.
Hamilton is performing at a high level most weekends too. Just not in qualifying. He has an average finishing of P6 which isn't bad at all in this car. As reference Leclerc has an average of P5 (P4 without Silverstone) so it's not like Hamilton is miles off.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 18:26
Do we know if the drivers ran different set ups?
Hamilton has a slightly more loaded rear wing spec

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i just hope he mentally resets tomorrow, there definitely pace in the car to overtake somecars . that's bit sad to see him like that...

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Aug 2025, 18:26
Do we know if the drivers ran different set ups?
They did. Lewis had higher DF, about 5kph slower. But he lost time from T6-7 and on which is the lower part of track. I think he's not confident in the rear, pure and simple.

He doesn't like the throw the rear of the car around, while LEC is comfortable with it, been the story all year and will continue to be, he's going to perform in front limited tracks, but rear limited tracks will remain a struggle.