2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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johnny vee wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:44


What do you guys think of this.
Suspicion that Redbull are doing the changes on steering wheel from pit or running automatic and that the driver is not doing the changes. If this is so, and it's a big if, would it be illegal?
The FIA can see the changes in real time and driver input, any driver aid would be instantly noticed, so I think it's bs.

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johnny vee wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:44


What do you guys think of this.
Suspicion that Redbull are doing the changes on steering wheel from pit or running automatic and that the driver is not doing the changes. If this is so, and it's a big if, would it be illegal?
You can’t switch settings remotely, and there’s zero evidence of that happening in these videos either. Every team will have toggle switches on the back of the steering wheel to make quick circuit specific adjustments between corners. Experienced drivers can do this seamlessly, like a gear shift. This guy also seems perplexed about how programmable buttons work, “he pressed that red button and it changed some weird setting, so SUSS” :lol: What a buffoon.

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Article 8.7.3 Any alteration of the driver’s inputs may only be commanded by direct, deliberate and
primary driver actions.
The logged raw signals from the FIA Standard ECU inputs must provide a true representation
of the driver’s actions.

It might be nothing. But this is F1.
"Because you didn't come here to make the choice, you've already made it. You're here to try to understand why you made it. I thought you'd have figured that out by now." The Oracle, Matrix Reloaded

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organic wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:23
It is crazy that one upgrade can do this, especially when mekies was playing down the upgrade in question
Wache said it delivered more downforce than expected after Monza.
Call a spade, a spade.

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The guy is now liking all comments calling Red Bull cheaters after getting so many negative reactions on his YouTube.

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Badger wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 17:24
johnny vee wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:44


What do you guys think of this.
Suspicion that Redbull are doing the changes on steering wheel from pit or running automatic and that the driver is not doing the changes. If this is so, and it's a big if, would it be illegal?
You can’t switch settings remotely, and there’s zero evidence of that happening in these videos either. Every team will have toggle switches on the back of the steering wheel to make quick circuit specific adjustments between corners. Experienced drivers can do this seamlessly, like a gear shift. This guy also seems perplexed about how programmable buttons work, “he pressed that red button and it changed some weird setting, so SUSS” :lol: What a buffoon.
The guy has deleted the original video and has posted an apology video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CcjtCpsJ8

Even otherwise, this is too naive an allegation ; scouts/spies from other teams would be watching with hawk eyes (every team has their set of spies) and would've flagged this and rattled FIA's doors long long ago, had there been foul play.

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venkyhere wrote:
23 Sep 2025, 15:26
Badger wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 17:24
johnny vee wrote:
22 Sep 2025, 16:44


What do you guys think of this.
Suspicion that Redbull are doing the changes on steering wheel from pit or running automatic and that the driver is not doing the changes. If this is so, and it's a big if, would it be illegal?
You can’t switch settings remotely, and there’s zero evidence of that happening in these videos either. Every team will have toggle switches on the back of the steering wheel to make quick circuit specific adjustments between corners. Experienced drivers can do this seamlessly, like a gear shift. This guy also seems perplexed about how programmable buttons work, “he pressed that red button and it changed some weird setting, so SUSS” :lol: What a buffoon.
The guy has deleted the original video and has posted an apology video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CcjtCpsJ8

Even otherwise, this is too naive an allegation ; scouts/spies from other teams would be watching with hawk eyes (every team has their set of spies) and would've flagged this and rattled FIA's doors long long ago, had there been foul play.
If you were using an illegal driver aid and automatically switching settings you wouldn’t have big pop-ups show up on the display for all the world to see. There was no critical thinking behind that theory, maybe wishful thinking.

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Why does this obviously non technical analysis even get posted here.

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I stumbled across this guy on youtube a few months ago and after just a few minutes I knew he's got nothing smart to say and stopped watching. I see nothing has changed.

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RB has been using push and pull toggles behind the steering wheel for multiple, pre programmed, setting changes at once. This is used to isolate certain corners from the primairy setup used on the rest of the track. You can see the toggles clearly when the driver facing onboard is used and Verstappen and Lambiase talk about them frequently, mostly during FP. Has been the same since 2016 and probably before. Total BS youtube clickbait.

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Amazing how this car was very stable in the low-speed corners back in Baku. Also out of nowhere the front-end is quite good with nearly no understeer, if we look at the race. Here is the fastest lap.


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Positive things
Red Bull team boss Laurent Mekies sees positive things. After Verstappen's triumph in Baku, Mekies spoke out to the international media: "We feel that some of the positive things we saw in Monza, we found again in Baku."

"Especially when it comes to the slow corners. It's only slow corners here, and despite the low downforce, that worked very well for us. That's a different comparison than in Monza."
https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1/29 ... uggevonden
It doesn't turn.

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Now we need a good compromise for 2026. Red Bull needs a fantastic chassis, best of the field of course, if they want to fight for high places. As the engine could be at least slightly inferior, comparing to Mercedes, Ferrari... This is why having a good aero, mechanical grip could be the key. Having a inferior car in the corners and on the straights is a recipe for a midfield car, I am quite worried. They have to have a competitive engine. Shame Honda is not anymore with Red Bull...

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AR3-GP wrote:
24 Sep 2025, 00:11
Positive things
Red Bull team boss Laurent Mekies sees positive things. After Verstappen's triumph in Baku, Mekies spoke out to the international media: "We feel that some of the positive things we saw in Monza, we found again in Baku."

"Especially when it comes to the slow corners. It's only slow corners here, and despite the low downforce, that worked very well for us. That's a different comparison than in Monza."
https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1/29 ... uggevonden
Yup, as I said previously Max was comfortably faster in sector 2 during the race like 0.2-3s faster than George and Sainz (who had quickest S2 all week in q3).

In Q1 and Q2 when both MCL got in good laps, Max was still on avg a tenth faster in sector 2.

That's why I think the RB21 will be fine in the slow corners in Singapore, the bigger issues will be ride height due to bumps and kerb riding.