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What sort of upgrade can they even bring with such small lead time? When they brought the current front wing they talked about how they pushed up to the limit to even get that one done, and said there wouldn't be further upgrades.

Maybe something small like a brake duct? They have been iterating rapidly on the front wing so maybe another one of those

[basti313]

I think the next two races need a very exceptional outcome, otherwise this is all just wet dreams about Max having a chance.

The general view from Monza result, into each successive race was to ask if that was an outlier we've just seen ? It's now stacked another high score on top of that pile.

No illusion here, but currently its definitely been running significantly toward Max, another and they'll really be having to think hard over at McL.

I think Monza and Baku were outliers, as they had no fast corners and no tire wear. So there was no mojo on McL side. Both Spore and Austin McLaren had the faster car and had "exceptional outcome" because of bad driving and bad luck.
The next races will be different, Mexico is maximum downforce config like in Monaco. We will see Ferrari and McLaren on top like last year. In Brazil McLaren will wipe the floor with the rest of the field in the dry.

I think the next two races need a very exceptional outcome, otherwise this is all just wet dreams about Max having a chance.

If I genuinely believed RB had the fastest car for the remaining races I’d have it higher than that. 15% for me represents the chance that Verstappen wins where he is fast and that McLaren underperforms where they are fast. Basically that the form from the last 4 races continues.

Yep. This is what I meant with "exceptional outcome". I bet they will do some rain dance at RedBull before each weekend for this.

What sort of upgrade can they even bring with such small lead time? When they brought the current front wing they talked about how they pushed up to the limit to even get that one done, and said there wouldn't be further upgrades.

Maybe something small like a brake duct? They have been iterating rapidly on the front wing so maybe another one of those

Maybe just track specific. They will need to bring the front wing upgrade to the high downforce configuration.

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The starts are back...

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The starts are back...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3pvzOPWsAI ... =4096x4096

It looks like red bull might hold a decent qualifying advantage, and if max can keep these starts up, it's possible that whoever has the fastest car simply won't matter much

[t_buzz]

Max could've been on a 4 race win streak if Singapore had gone better. I think the win was definitely possible if not for the dirty air gamesmanship from Norris, but can't really fault him because he did what he had to do. Might even be that tiny detail that ends up winning him the championship.

[CjC]

The starts are back...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3pvzOPWsAI ... =4096x4096

It looks like red bull might hold a decent qualifying advantage, and if max can keep these starts up, it's possible that whoever has the fastest car simply won't matter much

I agree.
Someone asked Lando if he regretted not starting on the soft tyre and he simply replied that he regretted not going purple, purple, purple in qualifying.
Russell also said that’s F1 is currently a race to turn 1:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/russe ... /10769705/

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slow corners and DRS zones.

[Vettel165]

Max has 5 wins in Mexico, he won already before 2021 here, when his car wasnt really good. He usually is very strong there, also in Brasil if Max has a good front end nobody from the current grid is as good as he in that S2 (slow-speed corners). The long straight in Mexico could also play to our advantage as in Baku or Monza. Also remember the car was quite good in the slow-speed corners in the last races (Singapore, Monza), maybe even faster then Mclaren. Mclaren has an advantage in medium speed corners probably and slightly better tyre wear. Will see all is open,lets go with the flow, race by race.

[AR3-GP]

In my opinion, there is no remaining circuit where Mclaren would have a clear advantage. Mclaren should have decimated the competition in the heat of COTA, but Verstappen covered the threat. It will be important to see off the threat of Russell and Antonelli in Las Vegas as that can take a decent sized chunk out of the Mclaren drivers again. Tsunoda will also need to perform in Las Vegas...

[euv2]

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slow corners and DRS zones.

I look at the track map and don't see a single corner that should be a problem for the RB21. The car has shown that it is probably the best in slow corners now, the high speed esses should provide a small advantage too.

Max should be able to do well in qualy, only problem here will be tyre wear. Max was able to 'keep' Lando behind for about 10 laps last year before he pitted on lap 20. If the tyre delta isn't too bad, the race should be fine.

I think Brazil is the weakest track coming up but sector 3 in COTA has shown that the RB21 can deal with the long radius corner just as well so I'm not that worried about sector 2 now. The big problem there will be MCLs race pace.

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In my opinion, there is no remaining circuit where Mclaren would have a clear advantage. Mclaren should have decimated the competition in the heat of COTA, but Verstappen covered the threat. It will be important to see off the threat of Russell and Antonelli in Las Vegas as that can take a decent sized chunk out of the Mclaren drivers again. Tsunoda will also need to perform in Las Vegas...

For me I'd say Brazil looks like the toughest circuit remaining with its long radius corners.

Vegas will be a chance to gain a lot of points. Could be similar to Baku for McLaren or even worse for them, judging by last year. If max can get ahead of Russell/antonelli and McLaren's struggle as one would expect..

[Vettel165]

In my opinion, there is no remaining circuit where Mclaren would have a clear advantage. Mclaren should have decimated the competition in the heat of COTA, but Verstappen covered the threat. It will be important to see off the threat of Russell and Antonelli in Las Vegas as that can take a decent sized chunk out of the Mclaren drivers again. Tsunoda will also need to perform in Las Vegas...

For me I'd say Brazil looks like the toughest circuit remaining with its long radius corners.

Vegas will be a chance to gain a lot of points. Could be similar to Baku for McLaren or even worse for them, judging by last year. If max can get ahead of Russell/antonelli and McLaren's struggle as one would expect..

Also dont forget Brasil could mean a wet or damp race.

[Sergej]

I see Brazil (depending on the weather), Qatar and Abu Dhabi as the most critical, of course RB21 will be very competitive but at this point only competitive is not enough, the win is a must; the positive is that Max/RB seem to have the edge in quali anywhere (based on Singapore), so that should help.

Vegas can be a good chance to make up many points but we have to be ahead of Mercedes, they already fuc*ed us once in Singapore.

[venkyhere]

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slow corners and DRS zones.

Turns 15-16-17 immediately after leaving the stadium section - whoever is faster through there, wins. This track has 'stop-start-stop-start' written all over it. Instead of LeClerc in Austin, I expect Russel to be the 'surprise interferer' in the McLaren-Max battle and could even find a spot on the podium in Mexico. Hamilton most likely to be the one from the big-hitter teams to suffer.

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It seems waché said the next upgrade will not come at the next GP. But he said this prior to COTA. so from Mexico onwards we can hope for something