2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[JPower]

Horner has been given many gifts at RedBull including the stellar technical team that was in place there.

You mean the highly distinguished Jaguar F1 team?

It's quite strange how asking around at Red Bull you get a different sense of Horner's contribution to RBR, as opposed to say...the riveting epithets of internet eccentrics...lets go with that.

You'd think Horner was some guy in the basement rather than the leader of a 6x WCC/8x WDC winning team.

Why are we even talking about Vasseur? Apparently teams don't need TP's anymore. They don't hire entry level technical talent. Might as well get rid of the position altogether.

[Seanspeed]

Horner knows how to build a strong technical team. A Newey less Red Bull is the second best car this year and that was after being in the doldrums last year when Newey was still around.

Simply discrediting someone's success because of personal dislike is never the right way to go about things.

But as others have mentioned, he needs full control or it won't work.

The current Red Bull is still riding plenty of momentum from Newey's design direction, especially in these fairly static regulations. And we can also see how well the car is doing in anybody's hands except Max. Also, it was Newey that was given the freedom to build the technical team around his needs.

Horner without Newey offers very little for Ferrari. And it'd be much nicer to simply have Newey without Horner if Newey was actually available.

Unless you worked at Red Bull, nothing you say is confirmed as legit.

Why do you keep equating Horner to a designer? Red Bull have been without Newey for nearly 2 seasons. He wasn't even the TD either. And they're still winning. Because, as Newey reminds us all the time, it takes a lot of people to create a F1 car these days.

And Horner managed to put the right people in place. He also happened to be very well liked by the staff.

Again, the regulations have been very static for a while now, with Newey's influence still institutional. Sure, the current car still has some decent car characteristics.

And I'm not equating Horner to a designer. I'm doing very much doing the whole opposite. lol

[bluechris]

Come on now, as some guys here said, Horner was alone and did whatever needed to be done for RB to succeed with no pressure from management to do whatever it takes. You really believe if he comes to Ferrari that they will let him do whatever he wants? No way... but let's say they will, the same then applies to Vasseur. Can they give to Vasseur full power? No, of course, and the situation is going in circles as the years pass.

[RonMexico]

Ferrari would be lucky to get a battle hardened veteran like Horner on board. He knows how to build a team from a low spot, not inherit someone else's work like Wolff for example.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Ferrari would be lucky to get a battle hardened veteran like Horner on board. He knows how to build a team from a low spot, not inherit someone else's work like Wolff for example.

Ross Brawn and Adam Parr's book was very interesting in that regard!!

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Horner has been given many gifts at RedBull including the stellar technical team that was in place there.

You mean the highly distinguished Jaguar F1 team?

It's quite strange how asking around at Red Bull you get a different sense of Horner's contribution to RBR, as opposed to say...the riveting epithets of internet eccentrics...lets go with that.

I certainly won't sing him praises now even if he was successful in the past. Horner is a walking spent reactor core at this point very toxic and not much energy is left in him. I would be very surprised if Ferrari took him onboard.

I agree. Frankly I think there is only one team on the grid who would realistically consider having that level of toxicity in their motorhome. The one currently employing the person who was previously banned for race fixing...

[CMSMJ1]

Let's simmer down eh chaps?

Horner a fairly divisive character for some and we can see there are some smelly scraps being thrown...

Keep it civil - no personal digs

[Alakshendra]

Honestly i dont favor Horner but fact is he can do things which are needed in Ferrari.
Build a system, not just a car, clear roles, short decision paths, and accountability that bites.
Ruthless performance management: weak links get fixed fast (people, process, suppliers).
Driver & media containment, he shields engineers from circus noise so the factory iterates in peace.

Now what ferrari really need
Governance clarity, one boss with real authority from board to garage. No committee racing.
Process discipline pre-briefs/after-action reviews that actually change behavior (strategy errors there weren’t “bad luck,” they were process failures).
Hiring freedom, let the boss import lieutenants in aero, strategy, ops, and build a spine around them.
Comms control, fewer headlines, more lap time. Shut the leaks, standardize messaging.

We are lacking at places and team looks like a clown show, its worth the risk to give Horner a chance.

[Wynters]

No team knows Horner better than Red Bull. What was their judgement? Fire him. Mid-season.

If that's not a recommendation then what is?

[JPower]

No team knows Horner better than Red Bull. What was their judgement? Fire him. Mid-season.

If that's not a recommendation then what is?

They also chose to keep him in charge for 2 decades which is unheard of in F1.

Great coaches, managers, executives, drivers, etc. have been fired throughout sports history.

Doesn't mean they won't or can't go on to be successful elsewhere.

[f1isgood]

No team knows Horner better than Red Bull. What was their judgement? Fire him. Mid-season.

If that's not a recommendation then what is?

Obviously anyone who has followed anything about F1 will know the reasons pertaining to an internal struggle. But it's obviously not relevant to the Ferrari thread and completely misses the whole point of a competent leader over a happy smiling leader in Fred. But as someone already said, I am sure Ferrari will be happy with not winning much. Afterall has Ferrari even won 30 races in the TH era? Because Red Bull under Horner did 35+ in just two years.

I am sure Ferrari would love to look.back on the era since 2014. In fact since 2008.

[DJ Downforce]

(Removed garbage)

Repeating this crap for months on end doesn't make it true. You must be a salty Sainz fan

[DJ Downforce]

Ferrari would be lucky to get a battle hardened veteran like Horner on board. He knows how to build a team from a low spot, not inherit someone else's work like Wolff for example.

You truly live in your own world

[ScuderiaLeo]

Mechanical problem for Leclerc, it's been there all session but it seems he can't go out at all now.. he said he couldn't shift and then was told to box

Amazing luck for the Bday boy

[ScuderiaLeo]

Session over for Leclerc.. he's out of the car...

So frustrating!!!!!!!