2024 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, Feb 29 - Mar 02

[Sieper]

For me, only half a second or more is dominant but I understand that this is a subjective decision. A 3 tenths margin will be overcome by track-to-track variations of relative car performance so cannot be dominant.

A pure 0.3s advantage makes a car absolutely dominant.

Perez had a 0.0 advantage so that does not make a car dominant. A car and driver are yes. Eeking the pole out and converting that to a dominant win.

[Tvetovnato]

Mental gymnastics, here we go. Max’s 32.6 lap time puts to bed any notion of that car not being dominant. He was toying with the field all race long from lap 2 and onwards, Ferrari and Merc problems or no problems. This was worse than anything we saw in 2023. And this is an interim car, waiting for a big upgrade to unleash the full concept.

[Xyz22]

For me, only half a second or more is dominant but I understand that this is a subjective decision. A 3 tenths margin will be overcome by track-to-track variations of relative car performance so cannot be dominant.

A pure 0.3s advantage makes a car absolutely dominant.

Perez had a 0.0 advantage so that does not make a car dominant. A car and driver are yes. Eeking the pole out and converting that to a dominant win.

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

[Cassius]

For me, only half a second or more is dominant but I understand that this is a subjective decision. A 3 tenths margin will be overcome by track-to-track variations of relative car performance so cannot be dominant.

A pure 0.3s advantage makes a car absolutely dominant.

Considering that the typical big upgrade package of a team can be worth 3 tenths, then 3 tenths is not enough for a team to be out of reach over a season. Especially not when you consider both an upgrade package and track to track favoritism.

That is why I put the dominant gap at 5 tenths or more. You are dominant when you are still leading after another team brings a big upgrade package and you didn't change your car. It's incredibly rare to see a 5 tenths upgrade package which is why it's a good number.

With managing, in free air Max was 0.6 to 0.8s faster than Sainz. Even correcting 0.1-0.2s for Leclerc this RB20 seems very dominant in the race. No weaknesses anymore.

[Cs98]

A pure 0.3s advantage makes a car absolutely dominant.

Perez had a 0.0 advantage so that does not make a car dominant. A car and driver are yes. Eeking the pole out and converting that to a dominant win.

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

If Leclerc was more of a thinking driver he would have beaten Perez today and been within 20s of Max.

[dialtone]

Perez had a 0.0 advantage so that does not make a car dominant. A car and driver are yes. Eeking the pole out and converting that to a dominant win.

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

If Leclerc was more of a thinking driver he would have beaten Perez today and been within 20s of Max.

He should have thought of winning, why didn’t he? Is he stupid?

[Xyz22]

A pure 0.3s advantage makes a car absolutely dominant.

Considering that the typical big upgrade package of a team can be worth 3 tenths, then 3 tenths is not enough for a team to be out of reach over a season. Especially not when you consider both an upgrade package and track to track favoritism.

That is why I put the dominant gap at 5 tenths or more. You are dominant when you are still leading after another team brings a big upgrade package and you didn't change your car. It's incredibly rare to see a 5 tenths upgrade package which is why it's a good number.

With managing, in free air Max was 0.6 to 0.8s faster than Sainz. Even correcting 0.1-0.2s for Leclerc this RB20 seems very dominant in the race. No weaknesses anymore.

Leclerc has historically been between 0.25s and 0.35s quicker than Sainz in Bahrain. We don't know with this car yet, of course.
So yeah, the RB 20 remains the fastest car comfortably. This was to be expected, though. The PRs tried to spin that this was going to be a different season from last year but that is not the case.

[Sieper]

A pure 0.3s advantage makes a car absolutely dominant.

Perez had a 0.0 advantage so that does not make a car dominant. A car and driver are yes. Eeking the pole out and converting that to a dominant win.

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

You really shouldn’t be talking about narrative when all your posts are. And if they make any sense, well, what is the sense of trying to deny Max’ talent. It’s an ABC to me xyz.

[Cs98]

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

If Leclerc was more of a thinking driver he would have beaten Perez today and been within 20s of Max.

He should have thought of winning, why didn’t he? Is he stupid?

He was too busy chastising himself for locking up every lap.

[Xyz22]

Perez had a 0.0 advantage so that does not make a car dominant. A car and driver are yes. Eeking the pole out and converting that to a dominant win.

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

You really shouldn’t be talking about narrative when all your posts are. And if they make any sense, well, what is the sense of trying to deny Max’ talent. It’s an ABC to me xyz.

Verstappen is the best driver in Formula 1. No one is denying any of his incredible talent. In fact, i didn't say that Hamilton or whoever would outperform him with the RB20.
On the other hand, you are implying that Perez is either as fast or faster than the top 10 drivers minus Stroll and Piastri. Okay then.

[dialtone]

If Leclerc was more of a thinking driver he would have beaten Perez today and been within 20s of Max.

He should have thought of winning, why didn’t he? Is he stupid?

He was too busy chastising himself for locking up every lap.

I’m glad we’re joking, for a moment I thought you were serious.

Not every race needs to end with one driver being a god and the other a moron.

[dialtone]

Again with this no sense narrative. Perez is significantly slower than all the drivers who made the top 10 minus Piastri and Stroll.

You really shouldn’t be talking about narrative when all your posts are. And if they make any sense, well, what is the sense of trying to deny Max’ talent. It’s an ABC to me xyz.

Verstappen is the best driver in Formula 1. No one is denying any of his incredible talent. In fact, i didn't say that Hamilton or whoever would outperform him with the RB20.
On the other hand, you are implying that Perez is either as fast or faster than the top 10 drivers minus Stroll and Piastri. Okay then.

RedBull at the same time has the best designer and car in history, but also a driver that overcomes the car being otherworldly to win races while carrying the car on his back.

[Cs98]

You really shouldn’t be talking about narrative when all your posts are. And if they make any sense, well, what is the sense of trying to deny Max’ talent. It’s an ABC to me xyz.

Verstappen is the best driver in Formula 1. No one is denying any of his incredible talent. In fact, i didn't say that Hamilton or whoever would outperform him with the RB20.
On the other hand, you are implying that Perez is either as fast or faster than the top 10 drivers minus Stroll and Piastri. Okay then.

RedBull at the same time has the best designer and car in history, but also a driver that overcomes the car being otherworldly to win races while carrying the car on his back.

Most importantly they have a thinking driver.

[AR3-GP]

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[Espresso]

RB20 is not superior. Otherwise both drivers would be far ahead.

Of you compare all the car’s except Max The field is very close and without RB all others seemed to have temperature issues.
They solve their temperature problems and…whoosh gone is Perez his 2nd place.

That Max has the ability to adapt to a car and maximize its performance is the Max factor. And he’d probably do the same trick in every other car.