Ferrari SF-26

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amr wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 13:07
I wonder if the Redbull solution can function in both way, letterbox and macarana and the way in which the wing is opened is selected based on different factors like the speed at which is actuated, how long is the straight, etc
The flap can only be in 2 positions, except in the short transition period.

In any case, Red Bull's mechanism would not allow the DRS style slot gap, as the flap leading edge is pushed rearwards during activation, rather than being lifted upwards, as in a DRS.

Ferrari's system could be changed to a simple slot gap by changing the actuators/stops.

Ferrari's mechanism opens in the same direction as a DRS, but continues until the wing flips.

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Nivola_Mn
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It appears to be asymmetrical. The right and left endplates look different.

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Nivola_Mn wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:06
It appears to be asymmetrical. The right and left endplates look different.
Appears.

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sucof wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:48
Nivola_Mn wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:06
It appears to be asymmetrical. The right and left endplates look different.
Appears.
I would bet on AI enhancement...

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matteosc wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 14:34
sucof wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:48
Nivola_Mn wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:06
It appears to be asymmetrical. The right and left endplates look different.
Appears.
I would bet on AI enhancement...
Nope, the one nearest the camera is bending away from the lens at it's highest point (when it would be mounted on car) with the one furthest away from camera bending toward the lens, giving optical "conflict" in the image.

If it were mounted on car and with camera level with wing and looking dead straight on to front of it, you'd see BOTH those two points leaning in to car centre at the highest point of the wing form "verticals" its simply perspective in this image.

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Badger wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 19:31
Far more relevant I think is how fast the mechanism operates and what aerodynamic instability it creates during closure. Only time will tell which works better.
More likely, in my mind, is that it's easier to do a trial device like this than do it the Ferrari way. The actuator is already there, the plumbing to it is already there, the hinges in the endplates already there. Relatively easy to do a proof-of-concept knock-up to see if there is a benefit on their own car before investing in a set of new rear endplates, actuator plumbing, support pillars, etc.
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LM10 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 18:26

They refined the Macarena wing and made it work properly - it must have not been so easy finding the sweet spot, but they did it.
How do you know? It was never used in a race, or even qualifying.

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mzso wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 18:14
LM10 wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 18:26

They refined the Macarena wing and made it work properly - it must have not been so easy finding the sweet spot, but they did it.
How do you know? It was never used in a race, or even qualifying.
Sure, but they tested the final version at their filming day in Monza, both drivers were happy and apparently had no issues with it especially under braking like they did with the previous iteration

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Re: macarena wing
Is there going to be a handicap/benefit when the wing is in the DRS-open position, when the trailing edge of the upper flap has a gurney fold ?

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Nivola_Mn wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:06
It appears to be asymmetrical. The right and left endplates look different.
optical illusion.
This should settle your doubts : Image

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wuzak wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 04:52
amr wrote:
29 Apr 2026, 13:07
I wonder if the Redbull solution can function in both way, letterbox and macarana and the way in which the wing is opened is selected based on different factors like the speed at which is actuated, how long is the straight, etc
The flap can only be in 2 positions, except in the short transition period.

In any case, Red Bull's mechanism would not allow the DRS style slot gap, as the flap leading edge is pushed rearwards during activation, rather than being lifted upwards, as in a DRS.

Ferrari's system could be changed to a simple slot gap by changing the actuators/stops.

Ferrari's mechanism opens in the same direction as a DRS, but continues until the wing flips.
The RedBull one should allow slot gap if the pivot location is properly set. .
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Seanspeed
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Is this actually different? Hard to tell when it's colored over like that. Looks like it could be the same, just one with more of the bodywork visible without the wheel on.

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Farnborough wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 15:08
matteosc wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 14:34
sucof wrote:
30 Apr 2026, 12:48


Appears.
I would bet on AI enhancement...
Nope, the one nearest the camera is bending away from the lens at it's highest point (when it would be mounted on car) with the one furthest away from camera bending toward the lens, giving optical "conflict" in the image.

If it were mounted on car and with camera level with wing and looking dead straight on to front of it, you'd see BOTH those two points leaning in to car centre at the highest point of the wing form "verticals" its simply perspective in this image.
I see your point, good thing it was an hypothetical bet.