2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[basti313]

I am still not sure about the power structures. Marko is definitely maximum pissed, in German Sky his reaction in his mother tong was clear...two short sentences something like "He burned the clutch. Might have been P5."

[Juzh]

Yeah, perez is gone after AD. Yuki in. Lawson will crumble against Max so no point in rehashing gasly/albon scenario.

[basti313]

Yeah, perez is gone after AD. Yuki in. Lawson will crumble against Max so no point in rehashing gasly/albon scenario.

Yes, I think this is the reality. The question is if we see Per in the RB?

Surprising end of the season. I really thought Lawson is the deal, never believed that much in Cola. But both RedBull prospects fumbled it completely in the last few races. If Cola puts again a suboptimal race in at Abu Dhabi, I see no reason for anyone to buy him out (with substantial money) of the Williams contract.

That would leave an open slot at RB, which they might most probably not fill with the last two other drivers left...Schu and Mag.

[Vettel165]

Wow, after getting what title in Las Vegas, Max ended up winning in Qatar. He had amazing pace on the medium tyres, I think also he could keep Norris behind on the hards. But that victory was really sweet. Amazing 8 days for me as his fan. Looking forward to Abu Dhabi, S3 is mostly medium-high speed corners now, also a part of S1 has the same corners. We have just two slow speed corners on that track in which Red Bull is not strong, but I think we can fight for a podium. What a year. Time to celebrate.

[Bill]

Yeah, perez is gone after AD. Yuki in. Lawson will crumble against Max so no point in rehashing gasly/albon scenario.

Gasly and Albon were rookies when they were teammate to Max i think given time Gasly would have improved .Gasly was on on average 0.4 tenth behind Max. perez is nowhere near that level excerpt on few tracks that he likes.

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Yeah, perez is gone after AD. Yuki in. Lawson will crumble against Max so no point in rehashing gasly/albon scenario.

Gasly and Albon were rookies when they were teammate to Max i think given time Gasly would have improved .Gasly was on on average 0.4 tenth behind Max. perez is nowhere near that level excerpt on few tracks that he likes.

Gasly was not a rookie. He'd raced for Toro rosso for a season and a half before being promoted

Additionally you've got your numbers wrong. Gasly was 0.55s slower than Max on average in qualifying but the deficit was higher in race trim. He was lapped by verstappen at Austria and gasly started blaming the car's design rather than looking at himself. That was the attitude issue that got him booted quickly with no chance of a return

In 2021-2023 perez's average deficit was usually around 0.5s, but he was better in the race than qualifying so it was not so bad. 2024 it's fallen apart

[HPD]

It seems that the rumors are getting stronger. Perez is out and Lawson is in.
Promoting the slowest driver, spectacular haha

[JPower]

Yeah, perez is gone after AD. Yuki in. Lawson will crumble against Max so no point in rehashing gasly/albon scenario.

Gasly and Albon were rookies when they were teammate to Max i think given time Gasly would have improved .Gasly was on on average 0.4 tenth behind Max. perez is nowhere near that level excerpt on few tracks that he likes.

Gasly was not a rookie. He'd raced for Toro rosso for a season and a half before being promoted

Additionally you've got your numbers wrong. Gasly was 0.55s slower than Max on average in qualifying but the deficit was higher in race trim. He was lapped by verstappen at Austria and gasly started blaming the car's design rather than looking at himself. That was the attitude issue that got him booted quickly with no chance of a return

In 2021-2023 perez's average deficit was usually around 0.5s, but he was better in the race than qualifying so it was not so bad. 2024 it's fallen apart

According to my records, he was just as far away from Verstappen in race trim as qualifying across the past 4 seasons. The car was just quicker than where he qualified making him look better on Sunday.

2022 was the only season where he was truly in an acceptable range to Max IMO.

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Gasly and Albon were rookies when they were teammate to Max i think given time Gasly would have improved .Gasly was on on average 0.4 tenth behind Max. perez is nowhere near that level excerpt on few tracks that he likes.

Gasly was not a rookie. He'd raced for Toro rosso for a season and a half before being promoted

Additionally you've got your numbers wrong. Gasly was 0.55s slower than Max on average in qualifying but the deficit was higher in race trim. He was lapped by verstappen at Austria and gasly started blaming the car's design rather than looking at himself. That was the attitude issue that got him booted quickly with no chance of a return

In 2021-2023 perez's average deficit was usually around 0.5s, but he was better in the race than qualifying so it was not so bad. 2024 it's fallen apart

2022 was the only season where he was truly in an acceptable range to Max IMO.

Which was mostly due to the car being heavy all year & an understeer machine

[basti313]

Gasly was not a rookie. He'd raced for Toro rosso for a season and a half before being promoted

Additionally you've got your numbers wrong. Gasly was 0.55s slower than Max on average in qualifying but the deficit was higher in race trim. He was lapped by verstappen at Austria and gasly started blaming the car's design rather than looking at himself. That was the attitude issue that got him booted quickly with no chance of a return

100% correct. I would still add, that the bad year of Gasly cost RedBull the possible P2 in the constructors. Just like this year...being well above 50% of the points of Verstappen would have been enough to secure P2 as this would have taken away points from Ferrari.

I think this is the red line. If they "cost" the constructors, the seat is on fire.

For Albon: This was another kind of issue. Albon had a decent start, but completely fell apart mid season. No performance, crash prone...they had to act. After they "relieved" him he was quite good again. I still think he completely cracks under pressure...and is still too crash prone for a top seat as we saw it in Brazil.

It seems that the rumors are getting stronger. Perez is out and Lawson is in.
Promoting the slowest driver, spectacular haha

I think Perez out is clear, the question is still if Perez is smart and takes his hat early enough and has a nice goodbye this weekend. Or if they just end it in the winter...

The point Lawson being in...I think the rumor is just bases on the point that Horner is not convinced of Yuki, which is an old statement. Not sure if we can read into this.

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Lawson's ego and style reminds me of max which is why I think they'll go for him. Suits their branding

[AR3-GP]

The next driver in that seat will be the next punching bag for f1 fans and media critics because he failed to defeat this era's main protagonist, Max Verstappen. I don't think Tsunoda can survive all of the awfulness that the F1 community harbors for the teammate that loses to Max.

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The next driver in that seat will be the next punching bag for f1 fans and media critics because he failed to defeat this era's main protagonist, Max Verstappen. I don't think Tsunoda can survive all of the awfulness that the F1 community harbors for the teammate that loses to Max.

Tsunoda is used to being scorned by the media TBF. Not sure what it is, other than maybe a bad first impression towards the beginning of 2021 with a few crashes, but for the rest of the season, much of 2022 and 2023 I felt he was viewed very critically by the likes of sky and f1tv

[Paa]

Why does everyone seem to wait for Tsunoda so much? He might be best option from the 3, but I think he is still subpar for being at Red Bull. They are just wasting one more year with him.
Would be much better to aim for a proper replacement with whom they can aim for multiple years together.

Tsunoda can be blisteringly fast at times, but he is far from being consistent enough, from race to race, sometimes even within a weekend. Also he doesn't seem to be able to keep his cool during races. He would be exposed by these big time at Red Bull and next to Max.

[organic]

Why does everyone seem to wait for Tsunoda so much? He might be best option from the 3, but I think he is still subpar for being at Red Bull. They are just wasting one more year with him.
Would be much better to aim for a proper replacement with whom they can aim for multiple years together.

Tsunoda can be blisteringly fast at times, but he is far from being consistent enough, from race to race, sometimes even within a weekend. Also he doesn't seem to be able to keep his cool during races. He would be exposed by these big time at Red Bull and next to Max.

There aren't any other options, right? Colapinto looks too crash-happy. Typical rookie syndrome. Lawson looks a bit rough around the edges still - like he'd damage the car every weekend in tussels. Who else? In a few years red bull's next promising junior arvid lindblad may be ready but in the meantime there isn't anyone obvious (other than sainz who they didn't pursue for whatever reason..)