2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[TNTHead]

All in all I found it a really entertaining season. And now two teams and fan bases can have their joy.

[Farnborough]

I did too, with just huge variation in so many aspect.

This is exactly what the new for 2022 rules were supposed to do, close the field, cap unlimited funds to just pay anything to win, then promote driver skill against driver skill.

Unresounding success all round.

[Jdn1327]

Is there chance of Max getting a reprimand for his comments on the radio? I remember Seb in Canada getting one as well. That would cap off a very daft year for the stewards.

[Pabbers]

Try calling referees in other sports idiots and see how that ends up

[ifilipic17]

Who cares about today, Max brought the WDC home. We had equal pace than Mercedes in this race. Ferrari, Mclaren were just quicker. But I didnt expect two wins in the last races, quite an improvement. A year started well, and ended well. But we need to improve in many areas for 2025.

I don't know how much of an affect did first few laps in traffic had but on mediums Max said that fronts were overheating, on that stint he was 0.5-1sec slower than top two.
However looking at second stint he was matching them so the pace was there.

[Wouter]

Verstappen community service announced: Here is what he will do!

It is now official: Max Verstappen will serve his community service penalty in Rwanda. The Dutchman received the much-discussed punishment for swearing at the Singapore GP's press conference.

While the now four-time world champion will get the trophy for his individual title in Rwanda, he will also immediately complete his community service in the African country. Verstappen will help young drivers in a development programme organised by the Rwanda Automobile Club (RAC). The activity will involve a FIA Affordable Cross Car that was built locally in the country based on blueprints from the FIA.

[trinidefender]

Bit of an unnecessary move from Max, pathetic penalty afterwards, but again, who cares. Glad these absurd penalties didn't interfere with the championship.

Onto next year, which will be a different story I fear.

Disagree on the pathetic penalty. It's been shown countless times that a 5 second penalty for something like this isn't a hindrance many times and if it means keeping the position but getting the penalty it's usually worth it by race end. That effectively encourages drivers to play bumper cars. At least 10 seconds encourages drivers to be more clean under threat of a penalty that will actually affect their race.

Max will have to learn how to race in a pack of other cars without always hitting them. If he can't do that then maybe he isn't as good as everyone thinks he is

The only miscalculation in the race today was Oscar not giving Max more room. Oscar had far more to lose in that collision and brought a lot of jeopardy into the WCC fight. It was silly not to yield

No thanks. Max needs to learn he can't keep bullying other drivers. He's always had the "I'm going here and we'll crash if you try to attack or defend" mentality. It's time he learnt some humility and other drivers doing the same to him plus penalties that actually have an impact on his race are the only things that will change his behaviour.

It's been shown that 5 second penalties don't do anything, not just for max but for any driver.

P.s. Max admitted fault for the collision after the race so people defending him don't really have a leg to stand on

[Watto]

Disagree on the pathetic penalty. It's been shown countless times that a 5 second penalty for something like this isn't a hindrance many times and if it means keeping the position but getting the penalty it's usually worth it by race end. That effectively encourages drivers to play bumper cars. At least 10 seconds encourages drivers to be more clean under threat of a penalty that will actually affect their race.

Max will have to learn how to race in a pack of other cars without always hitting them. If he can't do that then maybe he isn't as good as everyone thinks he is

The only miscalculation in the race today was Oscar not giving Max more room. Oscar had far more to lose in that collision and brought a lot of jeopardy into the WCC fight. It was silly not to yield

No thanks. Max needs to learn he can't keep bullying other drivers. He's always had the "I'm going here and we'll crash if you try to attack or defend" mentality. It's time he learnt some humility and other drivers doing the same to him plus penalties that actually have an impact on his race are the only things that will change his behaviour.

It's been shown that 5 second penalties don't do anything, not just for max but for any driver.

P.s. Max admitted fault for the collision after the race so people defending him don't really have a leg to stand on

The only unusual part of it to me was it was fir a first lap/corner incident normally that kinda thing is let go. Into a race its a fairly clear penalty.

A little simular in a way to Oscar, Often on a restart its the kinda thing they almost let to as a racing incident

[Seanspeed]

No thanks. Max needs to learn he can't keep bullying other drivers. He's always had the "I'm going here and we'll crash if you try to attack or defend" mentality. It's time he learnt some humility and other drivers doing the same to him plus penalties that actually have an impact on his race are the only things that will change his behaviour.

This incident doesn't even really have anything to do with that anyways. He wasn't trying to bully anybody, he simply misjudged things trying an overly ambitious overtake.

I also imagine having already won the WDC and having no chance at the WCC made him care a fair bit less about whether that move was truly on the cards or not.

[Seanspeed]

The only unusual part of it to me was it was fir a first lap/corner incident normally that kinda thing is let go. Into a race its a fairly clear penalty.

This used to be standard years ago, but more recently, turn 1/first lap incidents seem to get judged as harshly as any other.

[CHT]

Who will be testing for RB next week? I am curious to know who will replace Perez

[basti313]

Disagree on the pathetic penalty.

Absolutely.
I even think it is not enough. As mentioned here many times, if you crash into your opponent and end his race by rotating him...you drive through the pits in any other racing series. No idea why F1 needs something different, why 5sec is even thought about.

Funny though, that there are seriously people here at this forums that are 100% convinced that Verstappen is guilty in Silverstone 21 and now use swear words because he is super guilty now as well.

The only miscalculation in the race today was Oscar not giving Max more room.

How should he do this? From his position he could never see what Max is doing.

All in all I found it a really entertaining season. And now two teams and fan bases can have their joy.

Next year will this forums will explode. Just think about Ferrari. I think today Vanya is the last active Ferrari fan. Next year this will be the biggest and loudest fanbase, that was mostly silent for more than two years now.
The papaya army is just building up, every day you see another new nonsense poster. And the orange army here will need to up their game again

No thanks. Max needs to learn he can't keep bullying other drivers.

Interesting...bullying. No other nonsense word to be found? You know it is not slot cars?
For me the Mercedes reaction on the Russel pen in Austin was quite telling. Super mad about not being allowed to push an opponent on the exit off track. Completely different wording from what they use on Verstappen.
I think it is quite entertaining to go strong against Verstappen. I am actually looking very forward to the volcano to explode, maybe even filling up his penalty points. But from driving standards it just hurts F1 as a whole.
And ethically...the issue is they can not compete with him. It is just F1.5 in driving standards and car control. So I rather think the F1.5 drivers are bullying, but as said, no issue.

This used to be standard years ago, but more recently, turn 1/first lap incidents seem to get judged as harshly as any other.

Should be the other way round. This is the pinnacle of motorsports, they should manage to get through turn 1 without crashing into other cars.

Who will be testing for RB next week? I am curious to know who will replace Perez

Is known what happened to Perez yesterday? Did he burn again the clutch?

[kc_f1]

I really hope and pray that Perez stays at RB. He's a good driver and racer. Just needs to find his mojo

[SharkY]

I really hope and pray that Perez stays at RB. He's a good driver and racer. Just needs to find his mojo

As a Ferrari fan, I also have such hopes, as it'll be easier for them in WCC

Realistically, if you lose you mojo, and can't find it, you don't belong in the top team. It's harsh, but such are competitive sports - there's no room for pity.
A few years ago, Perez would be out mid season. RBR changed their driver philosophy, as it wasn't working (with Kvyat, Gasly, Albon) and went for giving Checo a benefit of a doubt and a stable position (and likely milking those Mexican $$$). But that's not working either.

And they might not care for the 2025 WCC, but if the field is as compressed, as it's now, Max needs a strong wingman to take away points from other WDC contenders.

[organic]

I really hope and pray that Perez stays at RB. He's a good driver and racer. Just needs to find his mojo

He's had his "mojo" for about 10 races in his entire red bull stint of 4 years, 80 races.

Even if he somehow finds it again, which quite clearly looks increasingly unlikely, he'll soon enough revert to crappy results after a bad weekend wrecks his confidence