2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Farnborough]

For the love of God, let a solid black and white case remain just that. Simple, easy to understand and almost everyone keeps to the rules. No need to create a grey-zone and add X-number of chapters to the FIA technical and sporting regulations trying to define "performance benefits" of Y-amount of thickness deficit.

I agree with you on this, they're just making themselves look more silly the more they ask for clemency/mitigation/ rules consideration.

These are the rules, that's the result, the penalty is known before. Get over it McL.

In a sport where they are proud of finite accuracy, promoting themselves as high achieving in the field of performance engineering..... and they didn’t meet or stay above a hard and very well known limit. Come on, who are they aiming it at now ? It should have been intelligent conversation internally and leading up to each race, this one certainly with the points gap they had.

As someone else pointed out, ZB would have had a field day if it were RB. Many things come around to haunt the cocky position he's made public. They just need to wear this one and move on, its not dignified at all to offer those words in report.

Its funny though that 0.12mm or whatever is banged to rights, but Red Bull taking a nice new engine for sh%ts and giggles, no one has a bloody clue. ( not against RB just using an recent case)

Its not that though, just as it wasn't 0.2mm on Mercedes wing in Brazil, that's simply the hard expression, in engineering terms, that they ALL know they've got to keep within. The same for everyone.

The gain in both those cases, is the pace difference in accumulation for each lap, by running it too far into margin to pass scrutineering.
Its niave/ignorant or both, to represent it in any other way.

Its not dignified (they say they want to conduct themselves "properly" ) for McL and anyone speaking for them, to foster this hard done by story by using complaint about the rules after the fact.

They've had a very good year, likely will get both championship to crown that. Whingeing excuses don't make them look good.

[De Wet]

The Usual Mountain of a Molehill...

[venkyhere]

Were you surprised by the Stewards' decision?
We verified together with the technical delegate that the measurement of the skid thickness was correct. Even if the excessive wear is relatively minor and in only one location, (as it was 0.12 mm for Lando and 0.26mm for Oscar), the regulation is very clear that the rear skids need to be at least 9mm at the end of the race in every location. Unlike sporting or financial rules, there is no proportionality in the application of penalties for technical regulation infringements. The FIA itself has admitted that this lack of proportionality should be addressed in the future to ensure that minor and accidental technical infringements, with minimal or no performance benefits, do not lead to disproportionate consequences.

For the love of God, let a solid black and white case remain just that. Simple, easy to understand and almost everyone keeps to the rules. No need to create a grey-zone and add X-number of chapters to the FIA technical and sporting regulations trying to define "performance benefits" of Y-amount of thickness deficit.

I agree with you on this, they're just making themselves look more silly the more they ask for clemency/mitigation/ rules consideration.

These are the rules, that's the result, the penalty is known before. Get over it McL.

In a sport where they are proud of finite accuracy, promoting themselves as high achieving in the field of performance engineering..... and they didn’t meet or stay above a hard and very well known limit. Come on, who are they aiming it at now ? It should have been intelligent conversation internally and leading up to each race, this one certainly with the points gap they had.

As someone else pointed out, ZB would have had a field day if it were RB. Many things come around to haunt the cocky position he's made public. They just need to wear this one and move on, its not dignified at all to offer those words in report.

All those convoluted statements, reams and reams of media articles... ultimately boils down to :

"Mclaren finally started to pay attention to their drivers' pride only after they had polished off the WCC ; and it so happened that a resurgent Verstappen with an upgraded car started rattling their cage, a cage which was hitherto assumed impenetrable. So they went full desperado and decided to overcompensate for a track which would have given them an easy P3/P4, and would still have been fine for both their drivers' WDC chances. Instead they gambled where it was not required. It just shows that they don't trust their drivers enough to handle the pressure, which they ought to. Now they have ended up cancelling the efforts of their drivers, and piled on even more pressure on them, both of whom are having their first crack at WDC. The team is 100% at fault"

I guess we wont get to read the above anywhere else but in f1technical, where we call a spade a spade.