2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

If Yuki had repeated his performance from yesterday, Red Bull would have been able to push Mclaren into a corner on their pitstops. They couldn't afford to pit their cars out behind Yuki. A pity.

[f1isgood]

Think Red bull got a bit out developed on rear wings. Most top teams brough spoon shaped RWs and for this DF range they seem to do better but Red bull stayed with the old design.

Red Bull these regulations have been looking like a fool whenever it has come to wings.

Initially Red bull were the best, they had the highest efficiency and biggest DRS gain but most teams started copying their design and the gap became nonexistent. Only at the end of 24 season did MCL and FER experiment with the new spoon designs, and they seemed to have worked well for med and med-high configs.

Yeah but they never took the wings seriously. Since early 2022 I think their wing has remained the closest to the original design.

[f1isgood]

If Yuki had repeated his performance from yesterday, Red Bull would have been able to push Mclaren into a corner on their pitstops. They couldn't afford to pit their cars out behind Yuki. A pity.

Max's only chance still remains McLaren 's having a disaster. Absolutely nothing changes in that regard. Piastri has to get off well but Norris can't risk to lose out against Max as well.

I think turn 1 tomorrow will be the only interesting part of the race unless Pirellis go puncturing.

[euv2]

Red Bull these regulations have been looking like a fool whenever it has come to wings.

Initially Red bull were the best, they had the highest efficiency and biggest DRS gain but most teams started copying their design and the gap became nonexistent. Only at the end of 24 season did MCL and FER experiment with the new spoon designs, and they seemed to have worked well for med and med-high configs.

Yeah but they never took the wings seriously. Since early 2022 I think their wing has remained the closest to the original design.

Like Venkyhere said they've been obsessed with the floor. MCL started looking at the bigger picture and to try and bring balance alongside increased downforce, hence their focus on front wings and flex.

Dr. Obbs recently said on twitter that Red bull has chased downforce from the floor.
His words:

I’ve heard McLaren uses the floor contraction and profiling to create a well balanced performance that isn’t a peak load monster. Meanwhile some other teams, like RBR, have chosen to try and manage complex vortex systems from the fences and floor edge to bring big loads. The downside of this is that it can be a bit temperamental and hard to keep this vortex systems healthy.

In some way I admire Red bull's push for more downforce through increasing complexity but they've not gotten good enough stability in the final 2 years. Only after MCLs gains through front wings, did we start seeing some shift in focus.

[f1isgood]

Initially Red bull were the best, they had the highest efficiency and biggest DRS gain but most teams started copying their design and the gap became nonexistent. Only at the end of 24 season did MCL and FER experiment with the new spoon designs, and they seemed to have worked well for med and med-high configs.

Yeah but they never took the wings seriously. Since early 2022 I think their wing has remained the closest to the original design.

Like Venkyhere said they've been obsessed with the floor. MCL started looking at the bigger picture and to try and bring balance alongside increased downforce, hence their focus on front wings and flex.

Dr. Obbs recently said on twitter that Red bull has chased downforce from the floor.
His words:

I’ve heard McLaren uses the floor contraction and profiling to create a well balanced performance that isn’t a peak load monster. Meanwhile some other teams, like RBR, have chosen to try and manage complex vortex systems from the fences and floor edge to bring big loads. The downside of this is that it can be a bit temperamental and hard to keep this vortex systems healthy.

In some way I admire Red bull's push for more downforce through increasing complexity but they've not gotten good enough stability in the final 2 years. Only after MCLs gains through front wings, did we start seeing some shift in focus.

Floor downforce is clean downforce in that it is less draggy than wing downforce. Innovating the wings could have also given more downforce but for some reason Red Bull's philosophy never went there.

[MYsee]

If Yuki had repeated his performance from yesterday, Red Bull would have been able to push Mclaren into a corner on their pitstops. They couldn't afford to pit their cars out behind Yuki. A pity.

I wonder if McLaren will force the team game at this stage. We know that they will allow the front driver to make the call, and it's in Oscar's interest to try to screw over Lando as much as possible. He needs Lando to fall to 4th.

[f1isgood]

If Yuki had repeated his performance from yesterday, Red Bull would have been able to push Mclaren into a corner on their pitstops. They couldn't afford to pit their cars out behind Yuki. A pity.

I wonder if McLaren will force the team game at this stage. We know that they will allow the front driver to make the call, and it's in Oscar's interest to try to screw over Lando as much as possible. He needs Lando to fall to 4th.

If Oscar is worth his salt he would tell them to --- off and do what he wants.

[Juzh]

Looking at speed traces at gp-tempo Max loses almost enirety of the 2 tenths in a straight line in S3. High speed corner performance is actually ok, just a little bit behind, but because T14 is flat mclaren carries this straight line advantage for longer and gains around 2 tenths from T10 to T15.

[AR3-GP]

They are quicker on the straights after the setup changes. He was consistently 4-5kph quicker compared to yesterday.

[AR3-GP]

Marko

"We're happy with P3, but we're even happier with the difference. We were about half a second behind all weekend, and now it's only two tenths."

"And if you then take into account that we were able to handle the yellow and white tires, the harder compounds, much better, that gives us hope that we can run at the front in the race. Moreover, there are of course these limitations with the number of laps, which means that two stops are necessary. Anything can happen, both positive and negative."