2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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FNTC wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 15:53
I haven't heard Stroll say it, and if he did, I am not buying it. It's testing. Sandbagging, politics, etc.
“We have engine problems and not just engine problems. We’re not in a position to fight for wins. Right now, we’re missing 4 SECONDS”
Do these quotes strike you as coming from somebody who is about to win a championship or compete for one? Even if they are only 50% true it would spell disaster.

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FNTC wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 15:53
I haven't heard Stroll say it, and if he did, I am not buying it. It's testing. Sandbagging, politics, etc.
This is not politics to be honest. They haven't set a single lap where the engine was pushed yet, while other teams are experimenting with deployment maps. And if they actually did push and that's how much it gave, then that's an absolute disaster. These posts that make calculations with rpms are complete nonsense as well. rpm and top speed are not correlated 1:1 and gearing is very important. In any case, just because you gained 10 kmh from 10500 to 11000 that doesn't mean you get another 10 kmh from 11000 to 11500.
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Rikrikrik wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 15:43
When I criticized Honda here, saying they would be a disgrace, people wrote huge articles judging me.
I hear you. I was lambasted too during the off-season for cautioning others about the numerous rumours I found. You just have to brush off those who want to stay in their positive bubble.

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Once I see then pushing the engine properly and are still way behind, then fine. I just don't think they have yet. Whether that is because they are testing other stuff, or whether the engine and cooling package can't handle it, I don't know. Newey also said the car will look very different in Melbourne than Barcelona, and so far in Bahrain its the same as Barcelona except for the front wing. So let's see.

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FNTC wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:05
Once I see then pushing the engine properly and are still way behind, then fine. I just don't think they have yet. Whether that is because they are testing other stuff, or whether the engine and cooling package can't handle it, I don't know. Newey also said the car will look very different in Melbourne than Barcelona, and so far in Bahrain its the same as Barcelona except for the front wing. So let's see.
You dont know if they already pushing the engine at maximun and he simple doesnt perform

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I just said "or whether the engine and cooling package can't handle it" in the quote.

Alonso's best top speed is 306 and Russell has 336.

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Alonso went 315 five minutes ago, but still under rev limit. It barely crosses 11000.

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Emag wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:01
FNTC wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 15:53
I haven't heard Stroll say it, and if he did, I am not buying it. It's testing. Sandbagging, politics, etc.
This is not politics to be honest. They haven't set a single lap where the engine was pushed yet, while other teams are experimenting with deployment maps. And if they actually did push and that's how much it gave, then that's an absolute disaster. These posts that make calculations with rpms are complete nonsense as well. rpm and top speed are not correlated 1:1 and gearing is very important. In any case, just because you gained 10 kmh from 10500 to 11000 that doesn't mean you get another 10 kmh from 11000 to 11500.
Funnily enough, that is how gearing works.

If, for example, you chose 7th gear, then each increase of 500 rpm input will give the same gain in road speed, obviating for any tyre circumference expansion at highest rotation and load.

As example, ordinary transmission are often described for top gear as perhaps 30mph per 1000rpm. Meaning, 3000rpm will give 90mph speed.

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I'm talking about the official speed trap figures on the telemetry, unless mine is wrong. I also saw Alonso do 309 before that. I'm sure Russell has done more than the official 336 too then.

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Emag wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:01
These posts that make calculations with rpms are complete nonsense as well. rpm and top speed are not correlated 1:1 and gearing is very important. In any case, just because you gained 10 kmh from 10500 to 11000 that doesn't mean you get another 10 kmh from 11000 to 11500.
I'd like to see your numbers for such a claim.

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Farnborough wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:17
Emag wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:01
FNTC wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 15:53
I haven't heard Stroll say it, and if he did, I am not buying it. It's testing. Sandbagging, politics, etc.
This is not politics to be honest. They haven't set a single lap where the engine was pushed yet, while other teams are experimenting with deployment maps. And if they actually did push and that's how much it gave, then that's an absolute disaster. These posts that make calculations with rpms are complete nonsense as well. rpm and top speed are not correlated 1:1 and gearing is very important. In any case, just because you gained 10 kmh from 10500 to 11000 that doesn't mean you get another 10 kmh from 11000 to 11500.
Funnily enough, that is how gearing works.

If, for example, you chose 7th gear, then each increase of 500 rpm input will give the same gain in road speed, obviating for any tyre circumference expansion at highest rotation and load.

As example, ordinary transmission are often described for top gear as perhaps 30mph per 1000rpm. Meaning, 3000rpm will give 90mph speed.
I was not in the mood to take that amount of effort to clarify such an universal truth.

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Wonder why Newey brought this car out when the engine is not ready. He could have done something basic like Audi and then brought out this car as a b version when the engine is up to scratch.

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"I ain't with the FIFA, I'm in Tokyo." LH

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Farnborough wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:17
Emag wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 16:01
FNTC wrote:
12 Feb 2026, 15:53
I haven't heard Stroll say it, and if he did, I am not buying it. It's testing. Sandbagging, politics, etc.
This is not politics to be honest. They haven't set a single lap where the engine was pushed yet, while other teams are experimenting with deployment maps. And if they actually did push and that's how much it gave, then that's an absolute disaster. These posts that make calculations with rpms are complete nonsense as well. rpm and top speed are not correlated 1:1 and gearing is very important. In any case, just because you gained 10 kmh from 10500 to 11000 that doesn't mean you get another 10 kmh from 11000 to 11500.
Funnily enough, that is how gearing works.

If, for example, you chose 7th gear, then each increase of 500 rpm input will give the same gain in road speed, obviating for any tyre circumference expansion at highest rotation and load.

As example, ordinary transmission are often described for top gear as perhaps 30mph per 1000rpm. Meaning, 3000rpm will give 90mph speed.
Yes, in a single fixed gear with everything else constant, speed scales linearly with RPM, that's basic gearing, and your 30 mph/1,000 RPM example holds. But that's not how it will happen in reality because we don't live in a perfect vacuum with spherical chicken. You get slip losses, tyre expansion, clutch/drivetrain losses and finally, you don't even know if the power unit can deliver the rpms you're extrapolating to.
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Some of these quotes show the problem is not just the engine. Clearly the engine is not where it needed to be but the aero and setup is also contributing part of the problem. I'll be excited to see where this car is once Q1 in Australia comes
"Where are these problems coming from? Is the engine too fragile?
"It's a combination of things. The engine, the balance, the grip. It's not just one thing, it's a combination."

"Does it also come from the engine balance?"
"Yes, there's some truth to that. Right now, he's not reacting very well, that's for sure.""
Dear God let this be the year