2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

[El Scorchio]

There’s talk of a number of drivers having to go to the stewards. Really hope nothing race affecting. Vettel is there for keeping his rainbow t shirt on, and Ocon for a procedure thing. If anything please just give them a penalty for next race rather than this.

[ferrarifire]

Exactly , he lost words once crowd booed him....

Hamilton not looking right. I don't think it's exhaustion either. Like an anxiety attack probably from the booing. It's hard to face that from that many people. It's probably bringing up feelings he had when he was younger and people were happy he didn't win. Those types of things at a young age gives you triggers. I don't think it's inherently racists just Verstappen fans that want Hamilton to lose though. That looked like a flat out anxiety attack on the podium

[politburo]

Racing incident.

A racing incident happens through a car's natural tendency to move due to physics. Not when you intentionally turn the wheel right to crowd another driver who is alongside, out of road, when you should be turning it left to negotiate a left hand turn.

I actually just watched the onboards. Alonso shifted slightly to the right to prepare the car for turning in just as Lewis was coming side-by-side with the overspeed. Lewis did the same to him at T2 when he eventually overtook him, shifted car slightly to the right to prepare the car for turn in. Racing incident.

[f1jcw]

It doesn't make any sense that the stewards gave Bottas only a 5 place grid penalty for making such an amateurish mistake. As Vettel mentioned, it was a Maldonado trademark move. Braking so late on a wet track is simply unacceptable at this level. The next race is in Belgium, how does this penalty represent a handicap for Bottas in a Mercedes? It is like Hamilton getting 10s in Silverstone. SPA has many opportunities to overtake with long straights. Bottas should at least get a 20 place grid penalty or a race ban. He is driving arguably the fastest car. McLaren and Red Bull should appeal this decision, because they lost too many points!

You don't get penalised on the consequences only the actions. How many times do people have to say this.

[Schuttelberg]

Hamilton leading the championship again in such an inferior car!

[Incognito]

Significant swing in the Ferrari / McLaren battle. Do we know how much damage Ricciardo suffered at T1?

[Incognito]

Hamilton leading the championship again in such an inferior car!

Yes, Red Bull have suffered terrible luck but, even without that, they've not cashed in fully on having a faster car. Better tactics/strategy (and luck) and they would have a huge lead in both championships.

[LaplacesDemon]

Who is up for a game of thinly veiled conspiracy bingo?

[Mr.S]

The people cribbing about Hamilton not being past ar fanboys who haven't watched the sport for 20+ years unlike many others. Alonso was on the line & ahead. Hamilton had no business even trying an overtake there. And Alonso gave hima
a full car width otherwise Hamilton would have been out! And LH has been a serial whiner for decades playing victim cards & twisting logic & facts. I still remember when he hit someone in Monaco & got a penalty & played the race card & said it was because he was black. Probably 09 or 10 that was.

Anyways LH continues to get lucky as a far superior driver in Verstappen continues to get taken by another Mercedes (Bottas this time). And Perez's engine needs to be changed too. Both RB are in the new engines & this would compromise the last few races (atleats 1 of them) plus Monza (they have to go into Monza with a much older engine & the others will have new). Alonso rolling back the years & showing why he is a Senna-Schumacher level driver. Shame he has 2 titles only. LH's 7 titles are probably as undeserving as Villeneuve's World Title. Being with a joke like Bottas !

Anyways we head to Mid-season with Mercedes & RB tied of sorts (Mercedes narrow advantage), Mercedes have the quicker car now (proven in different circuits like the last 2). The Silverstone upgrade was very strong & helped Mercedes. RB have the superior driver & need to find 1-2 tenths more in upgrades vs Mercedes in Half 2 if they want to win. This will go to the end. The 2 Mercedes (Hamilton in Britain & Bottas in Hungary) taking our RB causing 3rd Power Unit to be introduced will be a big disadvantage for RB !

[El Scorchio]

Racing incident.

A racing incident happens through a car's natural tendency to move due to physics. Not when you intentionally turn the wheel right to crowd another driver who is alongside, out of road, when you should be turning it left to negotiate a left hand turn.

I actually just watched the onboards. Alonso shifted slightly to the right to prepare the car for turning in just as Lewis was coming side-by-side with the overspeed. Lewis did the same to him at T2 when he eventually overtook him, shifted car slightly to the right to prepare the car for turn in. Racing incident.

I’m with you. It was a magnificent fair battle.

[politburo]

What is this about Ocon getting told on radio to pit on the installation lap?
That is race win removal penalty

He was told to pit on the safety car restart lap. Radio comms are only not allowed on the formation laps before the race is underway. If the race had been suspended after the red flag and started all over from lap 1, then it would have been illegal to tell him to pit under such conditions before the start of the race.

[NathanOlder]

There’s talk of a number of drivers having to go to the stewards. Really hope nothing race affecting. Vettel is there for keeping his rainbow t shirt on, and Ocon for a procedure thing. If anything please just give them a penalty for next race rather than this.

id imagine most of these 'crimes' will result in fines and not sporting penalties

[turbof1]

Why Verspappen doesn’t get a penalty for the engine change while a penalty for changing a gearbox is us usual?

PS: Please give me an upvote. I can’t post here anymore (only with admin verification) since I made some nasty remarks about McLaren 2017 livery. Thank you

You'll have to post in the technical threads with good quality, contributing posts for that. None technical threads like the race thread don't have voting allowed .

[f1jcw]

What is this about Ocon getting told on radio to pit on the installation lap?
That is race win removal penalty

He was told to pit on the safety car restart lap. Radio comms are only not allowed on the formation laps before the race is underway. If the race had been suspended after the red flag and started all over from lap 1, then it would have been illegal to tell him to pit under such conditions before the start of the race.

You sure on that

Ocon: "As soon as we can pit it's gonna be good to do so"
Team: "So you can come in at the end of this lap if you want to, let us know"
Ocon:"Well I guess I'm second, so, not really, what do you think, completely dry"
Team "Standby, standing start, I'll get back to you shortly"
Team "Okay Esteban, Box box box box"
Ocon "Copy"


Sounds dodgy

[the poster below]

Interesting comment from Alonso on Sky that he thought Hamilton was making minor mistakes in the final two corners for several laps.

Is there a requirement to do a slow formation lap? Could Hamilton have gunned it to get a gap to pit without getting blocked in by the rest of the pack pitting?