2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[dialtone]

Yeah this time it's totally nonsense, but when McLaren were winning ahead of Ferrari due to their mini-DRS it wasn't

There were videos of the mini drs. Right now it’s just wache saying it’s there but none of the rear wing videos showing it… that’s not a small difference.

I believe the testing claims are about the rear structure squatting backwards. They want to add new cameras to ensure it can't be done

There have been posts on this forum, in the pecking order, from people that have had a look at the wings bending and Ferrari has the least bending of them all.

As I noted during the practice the AMR and RB wings are crazy bending, how is Wache not complaining about them?

FIA already told him once to go home.

[scuderiabrandon]

Yeah this time it's totally nonsense, but when McLaren were winning ahead of Ferrari due to their mini-DRS it wasn't

The difference is a complete lack of onboard footage to judge it. We have one clip of a McLaren wing and as far as I'm aware no footage of Ferrari. It's hard for the public to take it seriously with a severe lack of evidence. So some scepticism is not surprising. And if it were happening on the McLaren, we're talking fractions of what we saw in Baku. At what point are we splitting hairs?

On top of that, the FIA's note of it is completely unreassuring that anything of it happens. Their reaction to it is always the same. How many cameras do these lot need to make a judgement?

I personally cannot discredit Red Bull's shout, but I personally cannot make a judgement with the sheer lack of evidence. I also recognise my bias, so I delayed speaking on it.

[ringo]

https://x.com/notracingpoint/status/1896616683659472981 even redbull admit McLaren and Ferrari are quicker.. they have more data but McLaren are stll favorites but not by much

I think there is some gamesmanship here from Redbull to take the attention away from them and then spring a suprise at the first race. The RB21 seem to have raw pace in Max's hands but just needs to be tuned.
The car finished strongly at the end of 2024. Arguably equal fastest with Mclaren but on a track by track basis. The race in Brazil was strong for example. I don't see Mercedes W16 leap frogging the redbull from their crap W15.
The redbull aside from the uncertainty of the changes made under the skin, is more or less the same philosophy from RB20 with the floor that that fixed the balance issues.
I say they will be fighting for the front row with Mclaren and Ferrari at race 1 if they don't have any oil or coolant leaks.

As for wing bending.. I think this Wache stalling the other teams, but also deflecting from his shortcomings as lead Aero guy. His car is supposed to be the best under his leadership and they're fine without Newey, it's just a little bit behind the others only because they are cheating.
He's only buying himself time not to be replaced by Horner and the Verstappens if the car underwhelms.

[Formula 1 fan 1996]

Is Ferrari expected to bring any upgrades for the race in Australia?

[LM10]

I doubt it. They first need to sort out their current package. Still plenty of potential to lock out.

Generally speaking upgrades in Melbourne are rare because it does not make much sense to test a package 3 whole days only to bring in some new variables at the very first race.

[deadhead]

Is Ferrari expected to bring any upgrades for the race in Australia?

I bet they will show with the same rear wing they used during testing

[ScuderiaLeo]

Is Ferrari expected to bring any upgrades for the race in Australia?

Bringing "upgrades" before they even get an understanding of the launch spec is a recipe for disaster.