Why not have an F1 Indy 500 once a year?

[N12ck]

I have had this thought for a long time, why not do an Indy 500 for F1 cars, like all the F1 cars on the current grid, gets put on an oval track for 1 race a year, I think it would be interesting for the reasons of how would the cars react, seeing a ultimate low downforce package and also it would be taking F1 to some of its roots,

f1 cars used to compete in the Indy 500, so what do you think about the idea, who would find that interesting?

[JimClarkFan]

Because it would be very boring. I don't like watching cars go round an oval track.

My favorite track is Suzuka, and for good reason, there is nothing better than seeing an F1 car turn into a corner at close to 200 miles an hour, only to be hit by another corner immediately on the exit, and then another, and another yet again... yes I am talking about the S's.

[strad]

Just go back to putting the 500 on the Formula One schedule.

[Nando]

I'd rather cut off of my leg.

[Scorpaguy]

I agree with Strad....F1 is the pinnacle of the sport, why not be diverse with the circuits? Of course the all the death and carnage would not be well recieved.

[CHT]

I rather have them do a quarter mile drag race or something

[RB7ate9]

If you want oval type of racing with long straights and high banking, I would much rather see something like the old Monza banking integrated back into the track.

Oval tracks are only interesting due to the paint-swapping (I won't say crashes, because that just cheapens the sport) that occurs since all of the cars are kept close together with the slip-streaming. Combining that with a massive field (something like 50 cars on the grid in NASCAR), ovals are just on the edge of a derby rather than the pinnacle F1 aims to be.

The only condition that I would accept an "oval" in F1 is the Monza banking integrated back as mentioned above, is a WELL thought out in-field track at the Brickyard.

Here is the current version (for Moto GP, I believe)



In this case, I wouldn't mind seeing the long straight integrated with the 1/4 turn either at the start of the straight (so we can see some long-radius wheel to wheel racing). Otherwise, more sweeping bits would be better. Something like what I drew in red (please forgive the poor quality of the picture and of the track, I ain't no Tilke!)

[Sombrero]

Bring back the AVUS (Automobil- Verkhers- und UebungStrasse) GP full size !



The paddock still exist today ! No rebuilding necessary. A lot of history : the second oldest track is the World (1906). Last victory of a F-1 front engined in 1959.



A good alternative to Hockenheim or Sudschleife.

[stefan_]

With all the respect, but I think that oval racing (as it is in the US) it's the dumbest form of motorsport.
A high speed banking section integrated in a circuit like Monza would be great though, I really like how it was done back in the days.

Maybe it would be interesting to have an "F1 Finale" or something like that at the end of the season, a final race done just for fun, but with 20 races already in the calendar it would just tear down team crews even more.

[raymondu999]

I think this thread is its own answer. It all falls down to preference - some will undoubtedly cringe at the idea, while others will love it.

I'm of the group that prefers there be no ovals, but I understand (some of) the reasons why some would prefer there to be one.

[FW17]

Bring back the AVUS (Automobil- Verkhers- und UebungStrasse) GP full size !


The paddock still exist today ! No rebuilding necessary. A lot of history : the second oldest track is the World (1906). Last victory of a F-1 front engined in 1959.


A good alternative to Hockenheim or Sudschleife.

Current F1 cars with streamliner body kits

But wont e fun if the speed record is not broken every year

[Websta]

I did a design of an F1-style oval below. It's not perfect or the best quality but I think it would strike the balance between traditional F1 tracks and oval tracks quite nicely. I would like to see modern F1 cars on a track like this:

[raymondu999]

That's old Hockenheim...

[Tommy Cookers]

I think that ovals are Indy type (eg banking 10deg), where cars have been slowing for the corners since 1916 (and F1 aces did well)
NASCAR and others still have plenty of these ?

or high banking (Daytona etc etc, also Monza, Avus) where the corner speed is in principle unlimited

there is a big difference, people need to decide what kind they want

post WW2 Avus had one end flattened because of the border
(Nuvolari made 3 tyre stops in a 5 lap race when it had banking at both ends)

Google the 'two world's cup' for Monza
or Google Tony Bettenhausen

[FW17]

Monza is nothing compared to Autodrome de Linas-Montlhéry