Rossi

manchild · Post 02 Feb 2006, 03:28

Yesterday testing times

http://www.f1technical.net/news/1707

1 F. Alonso 01:11.291 V8
2 J. Button 01:11.327 V8
3 M. Schumacher 01:11.831 V8
4 JP. Montoya 01:11.998 V8
5 R. Barrichello 01:12.062 V8
6 H. Kovaleinan 01:12.113 V8
7 J. Villeneuve 01:12.619 V8
8 R. Zonta 01:12.660 V8
9 V. Rossi 01:12.856 V10

10 D. Coulthard 01:12.883 V8
11 A. Wurz 01:12.925 V8
12 G. Paffett 01:12.937 V10
13 M. Webber 01:13.050 V8
14 J. Trulli 01:13.078 V8
15 R. Kubica 01:13.332 V8

joseff · Post 02 Feb 2006, 03:45

1s off Schumacher. Not bad, but like Jarno Trulli says, it's the last 200ms that counts. On the flip side, there's absolutely no way Schumacher can lap the Yamaha within 1s of Rossi's laptime.

Looking at the big picture, I think it's good for the overall show. Rossi gets more MotoGP fans interested in F1, and gives the F1 geeks something to talk about.

DaveKillens · Post 02 Feb 2006, 05:41

Respectable times, but I wonder where this is going. Even IF Rossi is given a seat in a Ferrari, it won't be at least until '07. Shu's successor... definitely not, they will need a proven warrior to fill his shoes. And would Rossi accept being number 2? I would tend to believe not, he's the absolute king of the mountain on two wheels. Money? Naw, he makes a tidy sum right now.
Right now, this is slowly becoming a little more than just a superficial public relation exercise, he's done quite a few laps, in multiple test sessions at a critical time of the season for the car development.
The only scenario I can think of is that Ferrari are trolling for sponsorship dollars to start up a second team, like Red Bull or Honda are doing.

jezzwa · Post 02 Feb 2006, 09:17

DaveKillens wrote: The only scenario I can think of is that Ferrari are trolling for sponsorship dollars to start up a second team, like Red Bull or Honda are doing.

i really doubt it, Ferrari claim they are a private team not a manufacturer (lololololololol

), and since they get no support from in debit Fiat i think it is really unlikely that they will start up a B team. But i guess who can ever predict what is happening in F1

Guest · Post 02 Feb 2006, 10:32

I would tend to believe not, he's the absolute king of the mountain on two wheels. Money? Naw, he makes a tidy sum right now.

Rossi wouldn't do it for the money. He'd do it to be king on four wheels. I've heard him say that he would move on from MotoGP. He does some rally in his spare time as well, so he's a true motohead. Rossi is bankable, he will be in F1 if he wants to be, but I have a feeling he wouldn't play for anyone but ferrari. Can't you imagine? He has to love Ferrari, he's italian.

manchild · Post 02 Feb 2006, 11:37

Ferrari already has its second team - Red Bull. Now that Williams signed the concorde Max has 4 teams for his little championship in 2008. That was the whole point of introduction of STR and "sale" of Ferrari engines to RB. It was actually Ferrari who bought Minardi and gave engines to RB in exchange for concorde loyalty. They now have 2 teams under their hand and Sir Frank made a huge mistake I think.

Sorry for being OT

monkeyboy1976 · Post 02 Feb 2006, 12:03

Rossi was driving a F2004. Compared to MS times of testing with it 2 years ago, Rossi is 2.6 sec down. Good effort though!

manchild · Post 02 Feb 2006, 12:44

What if he was driving F2004 with restricted V10?

RH1300S · Post 02 Feb 2006, 12:53

Who knows where this leads, it does not yet seem to add up to aiming for an F1 drive, but it's not a casual interest either.

It seems that the test shows that Rossi is able to get a pretty decent lap in. The gap to MS's 2004 time is pretty irrelevant, tyres, weather and engine restriction all change things. By the same token the times in this car against cars with 2006 aero are fairly irrelevant too.

Just shows that he is capable of something and more capable than most.........

Personally I don't know if I care too much if Rossi is in F1 or not, the main thing in F1 is to have good drivers in good cars - they become stars in their own right when the reach the top level.

I do love watching him on a motorbike 'though - an absolute artist.....at least on the bikes you can see his breathtaking talent.

manchild · Post 02 Feb 2006, 13:18

All Ferraris look the same to me but still I'm not sure that Rossi was the only one driving old the old one. The nose on third pic looks like F2005 and Schumacher is in some older car too. Both car from first 2 pics are the same but that is not one and the same car but 2 cars (check the airbox camera). Why would Ferrari bring so much old cars to testing anyway?!

Schumacher

Rossi

Schumacher

BTW, why is everyone shouting out loud that Rossi went off track when Schuey did to, what's the big deal with Rossi than?

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 02 Feb 2006, 14:21

Its just the media trying to dig into Rossi thats all...hes a biker wading his way into F1, so they are keen to bite away if he slips up. The media can be a right bunch of f***ers sumtimes.

About the F2004...I dunno why they are using it so much, Massa was testing an F2004 earlier in the month while Schumi was testing an F248...I wonder if the F248 is more closesly designed to the F2004.

A possible, and more likely reason, is that the F2005 was designed around new "long life" bridgestone tyres...the F248 will run in 2006 which the ability to change tyres, so bridgestone's 2006 tyres will more likely be built around a similar concept to it's 2004 tyres. This means that to get some vauable testing data you need to run cars which are designed around the shorter life Bridgestone Tyres.

In a nutshell: F248 is designed for similar tyres to F2004. F2005 was not so might make obtaining tyre evaluation testing harder or more inaccurate.

monkeyboy1976 · Post 02 Feb 2006, 14:31

After the performance of the F2005 last year, I would expect it to be in the scrapyard my now.

Guest · Post 02 Feb 2006, 15:54

RH1300S wrote:
Personally I don't know if I care too much if Rossi is in F1 or not, the main thing in F1 is to have good drivers in good cars - they become stars in their own right when the reach the top level.

I do love watching him on a motorbike 'though - an absolute artist.....at least on the bikes you can see his breathtaking talent.

All that Rossi knows from two wheels can be applied to four. The problem is that the car is much more of a factor in F1 than the bike is for MotoGP.

But, how many years can you go on being MotoGP champion? I think he's
got more in him than that.

DaveKillens · Post 02 Feb 2006, 17:08

[quote="manchild"]All Ferraris look the same to me but still I'm not sure that Rossi was the only one driving old the old one. The nose on third pic looks like F2005 and Schumacher is in some older car too. Both car from first 2 pics are the same but that is not one and the same car but 2 cars (check the airbox camera). Why would Ferrari bring so much old cars to testing anyway?!quote]
Maybe because the older V-10 can turn quicker laps than the V-8's at this time. Or just the fact that if a person very inexperienced in F1 cars tosses it away and sends it to the junkyard, it won't set back the new car development process.
But then again, old cars can still be useful in testing components and systems.

monkeyboy1976 · Post 02 Feb 2006, 17:23

Going by this first response from other drivers, Rossi's entry to F1 is inevitable:-

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com//060202/2/gphg.html

Note the caution from JV.