2025 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, April 18-20

[LM10]

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C3 - C4 - C5

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[bananapeel23]

Hopefully the super smooth surface allows Ferrari to run low here so that McLaren can have some real opposition.

[ali623]

Piastri has a perfect record around Jeddah against Norris in both qualifying and races so far since they've been teammates - should be a big opportunity for him to take another win and the championship lead.

[SiLo]

Piastri has a perfect record around here against Norris in both qualifying and races so far - should be a big opportunity for him to take another win and the championship lead.

He's definitely made a step this year, I think Norris is suddenly feeling pressure from him and realising that across a season, it won't be as easy as he has had it.

[Mcl_G10]

Piastri for the win. I think stella and Co have already previously stated how good oscar is in the high speed stuff so I think it's his providing he nails it.

Actually expecting the top 4 constructors to be very very close for this race in both qualy and race.

[deadhead]

Why would McLaren not enjoy a sizable advantage here? Because Ferrari can run lower? I don’t see it. The McLaren has been stellar in medium-high speed

[AR3-GP]

Why would McLaren not enjoy a sizable advantage here? Because Ferrari can run lower? I don’t see it. The McLaren has been stellar in medium-high speed

Mclaren straight line speed is poor. The downforce can only help you so much and it consumes battery power. At some circuits, it pays to just be aerodynamically efficient over having the most downforce. Mclaren was quite bad in Las Vegas last year.

[Sevach]

Hopefully the super smooth surface allows Ferrari to run low here so that McLaren can have some real opposition.

I expect Red Bull to be back to it's Suzuka form, unfortunately for them you can overtake here.
Don't think Ferrari has the car yet(or will have this season).

[venkyhere]

Hopefully the super smooth surface allows Ferrari to run low here so that McLaren can have some real opposition.

McLaren already have a 'real opposition' - Mercedes.
Mercedes will make it a 2 way fight, throughout the season.
Ferrari will make it a 3 way fight, sporadically.
Redbull will make it a 4 way fight, rarely.

[venkyhere]

'laptime' sits in T1-2 chicane, T13 U-turn, the T22-23-24 kerb ride which is sandwiched by superfast sections and the final T27 U-turn. Precisely for this reason, whatever disadvantages Mclaren have from being slightly draggier (they always prefer more DF than other teams) will be compensated, because in these relatively slower sections where braking and traction count for a lot, they will be the kings.

If Ferrari have solved their ride height v suspension softness v plankwear issue, they will join Mercedes as the challengers to McLaren. Redbull might be good with the fast flowing sections but will suffer with rotation and traction in the above slower sections (because they have to setup the car with rearwards CoP for high speed balance and their weaker front axle grip will be exposed, leading to severe understeer).

[_cerber1]

Why would McLaren not enjoy a sizable advantage here? Because Ferrari can run lower? I don’t see it. The McLaren has been stellar in medium-high speed

Mclaren straight line speed is poor. The downforce can only help you so much and it consumes battery power. At some circuits, it pays to just be aerodynamically efficient over having the most downforce. Mclaren was quite bad in Las Vegas last year.

The poor performance in Vegas was down to the cold temperatures, not straight-line speed issues. McLaren had a high-speed package, remember their performance at Monza.

[AR3-GP]

Why would McLaren not enjoy a sizable advantage here? Because Ferrari can run lower? I don’t see it. The McLaren has been stellar in medium-high speed

Mclaren straight line speed is poor. The downforce can only help you so much and it consumes battery power. At some circuits, it pays to just be aerodynamically efficient over having the most downforce. Mclaren was quite bad in Las Vegas last year.

The poor performance in Vegas was down to the cold temperatures, not straight-line speed issues. McLaren had a high-speed package, remember their performance at Monza.

We haven't seen any high speed package with the new car (yet). Generally speaking, Mclaren has been missing 5-6km/h at every circuit this year. I wouldn't expect them to be topping any speed traps this weekend.

[SoulPancake13]

I see Jeddah as the first race with a glimpse of 2024, with all 4 teams being quite close. The smooth surface and low deg should negate McLaren's tyre wear advantage, and the other 3 teams have much better efficiency than McLaren, which will count for a lot around here.

[SoulPancake13]

Why would McLaren not enjoy a sizable advantage here? Because Ferrari can run lower? I don’t see it. The McLaren has been stellar in medium-high speed

Mclaren straight line speed is poor. The downforce can only help you so much and it consumes battery power. At some circuits, it pays to just be aerodynamically efficient over having the most downforce. Mclaren was quite bad in Las Vegas last year.

The poor performance in Vegas was down to the cold temperatures, not straight-line speed issues. McLaren had a high-speed package, remember their performance at Monza.

Their rear wing from Monza was banned due to mini DRS, that is why they struggled so much in Vegas. McLaren even last year had 0 issue getting temps into the tyre.

[_cerber1]

Their rear wing from Monza was banned due to mini DRS, that is why they struggled so much in Vegas. McLaren even last year had 0 issue getting temps into the tyre.

The impact of mini DRS is greatly exaggerated!