Track limit violation and overtaking

[FW17]

I guess this has not been discussed before.

While there has been a lot of discussion if a overtaking move is allowed after the move is completed, are there any about the same before the move.

Scenario -
With new overtake mode where in you get more power as a following driver when within a second
Chasing diver runs wide on the corner exit leading to the long straight
may have gained time or lost time
but clear track limit violation
overtakes the driver ahead through the straight


1) should he give the place back for gaining a lasting advantage by running wide
or
2) keep the place and stewards ignore the lasting time gain by running wide

[Stu]

Track limit violations should apply to all corners of all tracks; both inside lines and outside lines.
Properly implemented it would be really easy to police as well.
No need for fifteen stewards to monitor each corner and then express an opinion before having a vote on it, either.

[AR3-GP]

I guess this has not been discussed before.

While there has been a lot of discussion if a overtaking move is allowed after the move is completed, are there any about the same before the move.

Scenario -
With new overtake mode where in you get more power as a following driver when within a second
Chasing diver runs wide on the corner exit leading to the long straight
may have gained time or lost time
but clear track limit violation
overtakes the driver ahead through the straight


1) should he give the place back for gaining a lasting advantage by running wide
or
2) keep the place and stewards ignore the lasting time gain by running wide

We should have seen it in the DRS era if it were possible. Breaking the 1 second barrier isn't specific to 2026. We don't normally see it because drivers lose time when they run wide.

However I did remember 1 moment that fits the description. 2022 Saudi Arabian GP. Leclerc gets overtaken, but then cuts T1 which helped him stay within DRS range for the next DRS zone.

50 second mark in this video

[CMSMJ1]

I think they should have a drop 1 place penalty for these infractions.
Not a time penalty but a physical one

[FW17]

We don't normally see it because drivers lose time when they run wide.

In most circuits with hard runoffs and flat kerbs drivers can gain time by going beyond. The 4 strike rule should not be the only deterrent.

[aMessageToCharlie]

I guess this has not been discussed before.

While there has been a lot of discussion if a overtaking move is allowed after the move is completed, are there any about the same before the move.

Scenario -
With new overtake mode where in you get more power as a following driver when within a second
Chasing diver runs wide on the corner exit leading to the long straight
may have gained time or lost time
but clear track limit violation
overtakes the driver ahead through the straight


1) should he give the place back for gaining a lasting advantage by running wide
or
2) keep the place and stewards ignore the lasting time gain by running wide

We should have seen it in the DRS era if it were possible. Breaking the 1 second barrier isn't specific to 2026. We don't normally see it because drivers lose time when they run wide.

However I did remember 1 moment that fits the description. 2022 Saudi Arabian GP. Leclerc gets overtaken, but then cuts T1 which helped him stay within DRS range for the next DRS zone.

50 second mark in this video

There is assumed to be massive clipping on long straights under the new rule set, so I think OP has a point.

And my prediction is that the stewards will probably let it slide until Alonso starts doing it

[AaronWood]

4 inch kerb would fix the limit problem.

[AR3-GP]

4 inch kerb would fix the limit problem.

That was done in Qatar and it caused tire failures instead.

[Stu]

4 inch kerb would fix the limit problem.

That was done in Qatar and drivers kept hitting it causing tire failures instead.

FTFY