An idea for a new electrical system

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Ciro Pabón
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An idea for a new electrical system

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Simple: a radioelectric system, that not only communicate with sensors around the car, as the recent ECU thread suggested, but also distributes electricity for power in the way Tesla proposed, by radio signals.

"I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device." :)
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Have it been tried?
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1. TRANSFORMER comprising:
a. Thick Coil of short length and few turns, which acts as the primary in the transmitter and as the secondary in the receiver.
b. Thin Coil of longer length and many turns, which acts as the secondary in the transmitter and as the primary in the receiver. This coil would be 50 miles in length or one fourth the wavelength of a lightwave whose circuit was 185,000 miles long.
ac. Magnetic Core attached to the earth and elevated terminal.
2. POWER SOURCE deriving energy from coal or a waterfall.
3. GROUND CONNECTION.
4. CONTAINER OF LIQUID AIR (-197°F) which causes "an extraordinary magnification of oscillation in the resonating circuit[s]."
5. ELEVATED TERMINAL or bulbous top for accumulating stored charge. To obtain highest possible frequency, a terminal of small capacity (like a taught spring) and high pressure is employed.

Figure 1. The sending and receiving magnifying transmitters are built essentially the same way. The length and size of the tower and transformer is in a harmonic relationship to the electromagnetic properties of the earth. It has a multipurpose function. Standing k waves generated in resonant relationship to known earth currents could be used as carrier frequencies for transmitting electrical power.

Real scientists have known for centuries that the earth is a giant electromagnet having a North and South magnetic pole. Tesla was using this knowledge to broadcast electricity just like radio and TV waves are broadcast.

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The stationary earth is a giant electromagnet and absorbs millions of volts daily in the form of lightning.

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Manchild, you're talking about Tesla effort to transmit electricity through the Earth itself. It is known he had no practical success on THAT.

What he achieved was transmission of power through air, using radio frequencies.

This technique has evolved slowly, first by using vacuum tubes or transistors to provide the changing electric field. This field induces another in the receptor, like in the RF Ids used by supermarkets.

Then microwaves were used: Raytheon achieved 85% efficiency transmitting several Kilowatts over distances of miles in the 60's. Of course, to use a wire, with 97% efficiency still seems logical, so Raytheon archived the project. Most of the losses they had were through heat in the transmitter and lack of "focus" at the receiving end.

Later, lasers were tried, with only 50% transmission efficiency. In the end, the efficiency for large scale energy transmission is limited by the difraction of the beam, which makes it impractical for long distance.

Now, an F1 car measures only several meters, not kilometers.

Nowadays, there are solutions for a few volts over meters, or several tens or hundreds of volts over centimeters. One example are inductive stoves, becoming more and more popular. Another example are electric toothbrush chargers, so popular that nobody notices them.

Powertrac has developed systems that deliver volts over meters, like this one:

A "very Tesla" Christmas Tree. Finally: a tree without tangled wires everywhere... This is not cancer cure, but it comes close... :)

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Specs: Two watts at 915 Mhz over "several meters". You can capture "over 70% of the energy transmitted".

Sensor with 4 AAA batteries replaced by 2 AAA rechargable batteries and a "Powerharvester"
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I quote: "Thanks to Powercast technology, battery life in the sensor is extended indefinitely, even in harsh environmental conditions." http://www.powercastco.com/index.php?page=products

Yes, I know we're not there yet, but it's an idea, maybe practical, at least for sensors. Can you shave some grams from the weight of the electrical wires?

It's a simple calculation: the weight of the wires, for devices that use under two watts, vs the weight of an increase in 30% energy of the alternator-battery system, to compensate for the losses, plus the weight of the transmitters and receivers. That's not taking in account the advantage of not having to deal with a tangled web of wires.
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Well, he had in mind to use earth as one line and air and the other so I thought you're suggesting that since most of the car is made of conductible CF, engine made of conductible metal, with whole car being isolated from ground as it is on rubber tyres you're suggesting el.power transfer in that way.

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Well, that's true. Anyway, I've been unable to find a system that works by direct inductance. I imagine that climbing into the car could be a shocking experience.

I still remember an old Dodge Dart I had once that, evidently, worked using that system (a secret conspiration by Dodge to keep it under shrouds?): every time I touched it, it gave me a shock, so the inductance worked. The efficiency was astounding: I believe it was more painful than touching the battery directly... ;)

Seriously, perhaps you should use some electrically insulated parts, not in contact with the outside "world", to transmit energy by inductance, I don't know. Anyway, the cooking stoves work, maybe you could use it for the sparkplugs, which are attached directly to the engine block. I don't know how would it work close to a gasoline refilling hose... :?
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