The stillborn McLaren V12 Lambo project

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fascinating story from Anthony Rowlinson in F1 Racing found on SpeedTV
SPECIAL: The McLambo That Never Was

Written by: F1 Racing 04/14/2008 - 01:52 PM
London, UK
Senna and the Ford-engined '93 McLaren humbled the more powerful Williams-Renaults on occasion, but the Brazilian was determined to get a power upgrade for '94.
Late summer, 1993. Ron Dennis being chauffeured in a plutocrat’s barge alongside partner, billionaire and confident Mansour Ojjeh. A carphone (the latest thing then) rings. Half a decade before mobile-phone ubiquity, very few people have this number. Must be important.

Dennis extends a manicured palm toward the trilling black handset; places it next to his ear.

“Ron, hi,” says a softly accented South American voice. “It’s Ayrton.”

Senna is in a state of some emotion. He has recently stepped from the cockpit of a Lamborghini-engined McLaren MP4/8 “hybrid” and has been beguiled by a glimpse of a possible future. One with V12 power, a wailing, rev-addicted screamer behind his shoulders; the promise of more competitiveness. More speed.

It has been a difficult year, 1993. After three world titles together since ’88, the team has been reeling under the Williams-Renault technical sledgehammer. Senna has nonetheless gladiatored his way through the year and will end it as runner-up. Despite the handicap of a Ford V8 weaker not only than the Renault V10 but shy, too, of the similar but higher-spec factory Ford unit powering Benetton. But Ayrton Senna – unquestionably still the greatest driver of his day, despite the recent successes of Nigel Mansell (1992 champ) and Alain Prost (who would win the ’93 title – wants more power. And his desire has been piqued by what he has just tasted.

The pungent V12 slotted into the proven-excellent MP4/8 tub (designed by Neil Oatley and Henri Durand) will, Senna believes, give McLaren the wallop the team needs to challenge for the ’94 crowns. It will allow him to recommit to the team for which he has driven only on a race-by-race basis throughout ’93. It will allow him to ignore the overtures of Frank Williams, who has craved Senna’s presence in one of his team’s cars as much as Senna craves hp.

He begins to lobby. He reminds Ron of the success the team enjoyed with Honda V12 engines…. But it is already too late. A train of events is in place that will lead to Senna’s departure from McLaren and take him, fatally, to Williams.

Things were so very nearly very different. Dennis, tempted by the giddy promise of the still-untamed V12, reached agreement with Lamborghini’s owner, Chrysler, for McLaren to run the engines through ’94. A handshake deal to that effect was made at the Frankfurt motor show in September 1993 between Dennis, Chrysler President Bob Lutz and Lambo’s F1 chief, Daniel Audetto (although Dennis, it would later emerge, never believed the deal had bee “inked”). Lutz and Audetto began to make plans, encouraging engine design chief, mercurial, brilliant Mauro Forghieri, to listen to Senna’s entreaties for a less-brutal top end and a fatter midrange.

He was heeded, of course, because he was Ayrton Senna, triple World Champion. Legend. Twenty-five horses, grazing in the rarefied pastures at the top end of the rev range, were culled and 60 more were found on the lower slopes. The changes made the engine more driveable, the car faster.


Ayrton Senna (LAT photo) » More Photos
Mika Hakkinen, McLaren’s ’93 test driver before replacing Michael Andretti for the final three races of the season – and the only man still alive to have driven the McLaren-Lamborghini, tested it soon after Senna. Fourteen years on, the memory remains vivid.

“I remember that test very clearly – it was a very exciting time,” says Hakkinen, who would go on to claim a couple of world titles of his own with McLaren. “The Ford engine was a good package but we had very high expectations of the Lamborghini V12 and we were right to – when you put your foot down, you would really go.

“There were a couple of problems, for sure. It was very long, for a start, and that didn’t help the chassis. The fuel consumption was higher, it was a bit too heavy and it needed more cooling. But it was a very exciting engine.”

Never more so than on one chilly afternoon at Silverstone. “Yeah, I’ll never forget the feeling of it around there,” Mika recalls. “It was amazing. The power kept on coming. It was fantastic; we were really flying. But on the Hangar Straight going towards Stowe, it exploded…I mean, really exploded! It was massive, maybe the biggest engine blow-up I ever had. It was shocking, actually. Engine bits and pistons were flying past me, left, right, everywhere. I could see them coming past my helmet. It was such a big bang, it blew a hole in the floor. Still, it was one of the most special moments in my F1 career. And what an incredible sound…”

No doubt, the Lambo 3512 wasn’t ready for a championship campaign, but there was time to test and develop it. And the chassis was already a honey. Giorgio Ascanelli, then Senna’s race engineer, now Toro Rosso’s tech boss, remembers the all-nighters pulled to graft the V12 onto a monocoque designed for a V8.

“It was three months of solid work, in the middle of a season; new launch control, revised chassis, gearbox, drive-by-wire…it was a lot of work. Only a great team like McLaren could have done it. But we came out with something pretty special. It was a bit longer and heavier than the V8 car, but more stable and easier on its tires. And it was considerably more powerful.”

It thrilled Hakkinen. It inspired Senna, who wanted to race it straight away, before ’93 was out. If it blew up, so be it. At least it would be quick.

Dennis, though—tough-loving, romantic but unsentimental Ron Dennis – was unwavering. The team would finish the season with the Ford (and Senna would win his last McLaren race, the Australian Grand Prix, from the pole). Besides, Dennis already had other plans. He had conjured a ’94 deal with Peugeot, an ambitious French giant jealous of compatriot Renault’s multiple-title success.


Larrousse never gave the Chrysler/Lambo a shot at the front, and corporate enthusiasm quickly evaporated after McLaren opted for Peugeots. (LAT photo) » More Photos
Peugeot came to McLaren with its prototype A6 V10, sackfuls of francs, and the promise of an intensive development program. It was a major manufacturer, offering the stability and deep pockets Dennis had pined for since his team’s split with Honda at the end of 1992. Financial inducements made the partnership inevitable, but it was agreed without Senna’s blessing, and would incur the undying wrath of the Lambo/Chrysler management. A brief liaison that could have brought spectacular success ended after a few short months as one of F1’s most acrimonious, though almost overlooked, chapters.

When announced, the deal had an immediate fallout. Senna left the team, not soley because of the abortive McLambo partnership, but because he knew that a McLaren-Peugeot would be no match for a Williams-Renault in 1994. Chrysler ended its funding of the F1 project, and Lambo had to close its factory (although, under Italian law, it had to remain open one more season, during which it supplied engines to Larrousse).

A few months on, it became clear the McLaren-Peugeot partnership was on course for ignominy as one of the least-successful cars the team had ever built. It finished a distant fourth in the ’94 championship with eight podiums, but no wins. The Anglo-French partnership began to fray early, torn apart by frustrations borne of unreliability, and Dennis, Lamborghini’s nemesis and Peugeot’s fleeting darling, began to explore a new relationship with Mercedes-Benz (destined, with bittersweet irony, to merge with Chrysler four years later). Lambo’s F1 operation, emasculated, shuffled into God’s waiting room.

Ayrton Senna was killed on May 1, 1994, when his Williams-Renault crashed at Imola. There are many who remain in F1 who were close, then to Senna and close, still to those involved in the McLaren-Lamborghini affair, who believe that had team and engine builder agreed to race together in 1994, Senna would have stayed on. They believe he might still be with us to speak late and long about his epic duels with his heir apparent, Michael Schumacher.
-Anthony Rowlinson/F1 Racing
so Ron always had a desire to pull in a manufacturer with deep pockets but it backfired. money will not always buy success. with regard to going for V10 he made the right choice in terms of engine configuration. the V8 was too low on power and the V12 was too heavy and thirsty as Ferrari found out. sometimes it isn't only about power. other factors started to influence ultimate pace. the age of aerodynamics was upon us.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

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Good story, thanks for posting.
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Nice reading!
I knew about the McLambo cause I read AS biography :wink:

I like best Colin Chapman´s design philosophy (light car, faster with less power) but can´t deny V12s has got something magical!

I would love to see if there exists a video from the explosion Mika tells. Doubt it cause was a private test, but my mind is already working :P
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Incredible literature!! Thanks a bunch for sharing this :)
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Thnkas for this!

Loved this bit:
It inspired Senna, who wanted to race it straight away, before ’93 was out. If it blew up, so be it. At least it would be quick.

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An excellent story, but having been there at the time, there are a couple of facts that need correcting.

Firstly, Mauro Forghieri was replaced as the Technical Director at Lamborghini Engineering in the autumn of 1991 by an Englishman named Michael Royce who was a career Chrysler engineer. He remained at Lamborghini Engineering until it closed in early 1994.

Secondly, LE did not provide the engine for Larrousse in 1994. They used a Ford V8.

And for the record, in some articles the LE V-12, which was designated the CL01 for 1993, was an 80 degree vee, not 60. The 3512 designation was only used up through 1992. For 1993 the engine received some major revisions based on significant help form Chrysler Engineering in the USA, hence the CL01. There is an SAE technical paper on the engine for those who are interested, including a number of genuine power curves.

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The way I remember it, Chrysler was furious, claiming Senna lapped Silverstone 2 sec faster than the Ford-engined car.
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Interesting story indeed and for the sake of digging up old threads, here are some pictures of Ayrton testing a plain white livery free McLaren MP4/8B at Autódromo do Estoril in September 1993 (the Monday after the Portuguese Grand Prix that year).

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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The tests with McLaren were at Silverstone on the South Circuit, then at Pembrey in South Wales, at Estoril and back to SIlverstone. Senna drove in the first, second and third tests.

During that last test at Silverstone on October 5th - 7th 1993, the driver was Mika Hakkinen not Senna. In a back-to-back test, in the MP4/8B, the "white Mclaren", Mika lapped the full Grand Prix Circuit 1.4 seconds quicker than he did in the Ford powered MP4/8.

Yes, Bob Eaton and Bob Lutz were very upset. And Daniele Audetto and the team at LE were very disappointed. They were a very good team.

Stefan, those are very nice photos, much better than the ones from Pembrey that I have. Could you tell me where I might get good copies?

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Interesting, I didn't know there were 4 tests in total.

Here you have the pictures I posted above in high resolution: 1 | 2 | 3
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Stefan,
Thank you. The photos are very much appreciated.

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No problems mate, my pleasure to share them.

A couple more with Senna (don't know the location though)
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And with Mika behind the steering wheel
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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Stefan,
Thanks.

The first 2 look like Estoril (the 3rd test). It is Senna, and they definitely are not Pembrey - #1 is NOT Pembrey's pit lane, and for #2 there were not that many people at Pembrey!!

#3 looks like the first test at Silverstone. Both Mika and Senna drove, and I have some video of Mika lapping in the wet. The engineer looks like Gorgio Asconelli.

#4 could be Pembrey too.

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Just imagine... Senna in that McLaren-Lamborghini, Prost still in the Williams (because Senna would still be at McLaren) and Schumacher in the Bennetton. That would have been an epic 1994 season...

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