lebesset wrote:frankly I don't give a damn as it makes no difference , but was just curious how this happens
looks to me from the fanatic site that it is possible to spam [ certainly not the correct word
] these polls
point taken about lots of ferrari fans , but why always massa here ? why never kimi ?
I can understand that a site in german would have a pro german bias etc , but as this is in english bias to a brazilian driver seems unlikely
as regard other polls I have noticed a couple of others polls , but if they give numbers I didn't notice ...perhaps that's the explanation , very few votes with the same people voting each time !
Yes, I agree. Whoever wins, he will be WDC without polls having any influence. That not true in the long run, because here lays the "social capital" of drivers.
I noticed that polls can be "spammed", that's why I posted the F1Fanatics poll. Glad you noticed, too. I frankly don't believe "our" polls are that distorted (I bet there is a Kubitza fan at F1Fanatics that know how to spoof multiple IPs...
). However, discount Kubitza and notice the trend at that poll.
I have to make clear that around F1Technical it's not "always Massa". Check this:
You ask why. Well, in my analysis of polls I mentioned Stafford Beer, the cybernetist. He, and his most famous disciple, Noam Chomsky, think that language is not something you "master": you speak like the birds sing (sort of...). For example, when you speak you're not conscious of the words you choose. The words "come out of your mouth" by themselves. Why am I talking about this?
Allow me to sum up a (probably cryptic) example by Beer:
In America, during the 50's, some girl, dressed in white, jumped into the town's fountain, in the central park of the town. The local newspaper ran a story on that, with a picture of the girl, commenting on the originality and impulsiveness of the girl. The story went into syndicated papers. During that summer, dozens of girls, dressed in white, jumped into their respective town's fountains.
According to Beer, all of them were original.
Same goes for the "originality" of our forumers when picking a winner. They're are original (because that's what human originality boils down to), and they're original
all of them at the same time.
I hope you get my drift. Surely, if you do, you won't be upset about the poll's results, but intrigued about human nature.
Finally, there is also a long explanation (as everything I post...
) that I won't post here, about the "empirical laws of forums" (actually, the laws of social networks), that I posted elsewhere, just in case you're intrigued about how forum size influences the outcome:
A reflection on F1 forums
This kind of analysis tells me that the polls of this forum are accurate, even if Tomba forgets to close them in time, because a forum with 3.000 votes is thousands of times more "accurate" (in terms of social networks) than one with 50 votes. Man, I have to comment that systems general theory is fun!
But not for everybody, so, here I shut up.
You probably know I'm sincerely interested in the issue. BTW, have we had a poll on those penalties? Thanks heaven I missed it. 
