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But to be honest we have known about this since the MP4/24 was released... this is not shocking news... there were hints all along.nudger wrote:well, of course he flatly denies it was related in any way to liegate....but make youyr own mind up.
he has stepped down as group chairmam, and is establishing mclaren automotive as an independent company, which he will be the ceo.
the group has a new non executive chairman, who no body at mclaren knows (i exagerate...whitmarsh has met him once)
so not only has ron given up mclaren racing, but he has given up mclaren electronics, mclaren applied technologies and absolute taste.
I know what i think has happened...what about you?
As CEO of the McLaren Group he HAD to be involved in the F1 team, cause it is part of the McLaren Group.nudger wrote:there is no reason at all for him to have done that...he didnt have to be involved in f1 to any level if he chose. But lets see...if he stands down as chairman of the group, then that guarantees he will not have any involvement in F1 anymore. hmmm, why would he not just choose not to get involved, rather than have no choice of being involved!
you make assumptions as to what i am implying. You are right i am implying something, but not that!sebbe wrote:As CEO of the McLaren Group he HAD to be involved in the F1 team, cause it is part of the McLaren Group.nudger wrote:there is no reason at all for him to have done that...he didnt have to be involved in f1 to any level if he chose. But lets see...if he stands down as chairman of the group, then that guarantees he will not have any involvement in F1 anymore. hmmm, why would he not just choose not to get involved, rather than have no choice of being involved!
You're implying he was part of the Lie-gate; do you have a proof of that? No, and nobody does.
Ron's departure must be the outcome of a big power struggle inside the Group. Since he feels the need to keep working, whichever forced him to step down offered him to develop McLaren Automotive LTD as a consolation prize.
Ron Dennis wrote:I used to go to bed with the vacuum cleaner going..
I'm responsible for two lives out there and the performance of the company. When I see my opposite numbers in other teams and how ridiculously colourful and playing to the audience they are, I can't help thinking "How on earth do you ever think you're going to win a grand prix?"
outstanding stuff from RonYou write down the names of all the team principals from the past 10 years and how many have won more than five races? It’s a short list. Throw some other queries at that and you’ll realise performance requires total dedication. You pay for that dedication because people misunderstand your personality and motives. That’s the price you pay, but I sleep easy.”
Sure, he got a 100 mil $ fine for credibility and integrity or was it for having people spying and lying about it?xpensive wrote:...this man has more credibility and integrity than most of the paddock combined.