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Lewis Hamilton has taken his 100th victory in today's Russian Grand Prix. Max Verstappen ended up in second place, taking full advantage of the last-minute rain that turned everything around. Carlos Sainz completes the podium in third place.
hard for me to believe that bottas is almost 6tenths a lap quicker than Hamilton. I know he likes the track here but damn.
I knew someone would come here desperate for Lewis to get a penalty, I think you need to look up what a precedent meansdarkpino wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 18:49How come Lewis is not under investigation?
Precedent:
www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/57615056.amp
Old engine being babied vs new engine not being babied!
They ran different setups. Hamilton was just as quick, if not quicker, most of the time through S1 due to lower downforce, but lost a lot of time in S2 especially. They will converge tomorrow most likely after tonights data crunching.
The guy in charge of USA ?matt_b wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 20:44I knew someone would come here desperate for Lewis to get a penalty, I think you need to look up what a precedent meansdarkpino wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 18:49How come Lewis is not under investigation?
Precedent:
www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/57615056.amp
That's 9 laps...The race is around 6 times longer than that, the tires are going to fall off a cliff and be horrendous to drive on in ~20 laps, there will be almost no grip in the rear, maybe you can nurse them for a one stop, but you'll be so painfully slow that it's not worth it.Fulcrum wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 18:34I can think of 3 reasons for doing more than 2 stops: desperation, trying to steal the fastest lap, or getting a 'free stop' during a Safety Car period. You'd likely require a combination of these factors to facilitate 3 stops.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 16:02It's going to rain until around 4pm tomorrow local time, with the heaviest rain around FP3 time, from what I can see. It won't be more than a drizzle on Sunday, likely dry. The rain will mean that there's a green track that will rubber in, I hope we saved our Hard tires, we're going to need them come race day. The undercut is very powerful, however there is a long pit time penalty.
The rears will need protecting.
A two stop is looking likely for the race, with a 3 stop being almost as fast. It may also afford enough pace disparity to make overtakes possible. If they don't have the top speed to make the pass into turn 2, then they'll need the downforce to make the pass into turn 13
This track has a pitlane speed limit of 60kph. Between that and the low degradation tarmac, pit stops are hugely disincentivized, as evidenced by every race ever held here.
Look at the data from Practice 1, where the tyres typically degrade at their worst.
Bottas (C3) - 9 lap stint
01:41.762
01:40.801
01:41.978
01:40.761
01:40.675
01:41.172
01:40.232
01:40.615
01:40.516
Average: 01:40.946; 01:40.682 if excluding the initial high 01:41's.
I.e. Degradation lower than the fuel burn-off effect.
The Mercs are going to be under little to no threat with Max at the back of the field. They'll try to get through to Q3 on the C4 (yellow), nurse those tyres for as long as required during the race, before pitting for C3 (white). Then, come race end, they'll bolt on some C5's for the fastest lap. A 'fake' 2-stop in other words.
All of this assuming a dry race without Safety Cars.
I don't know if I'm going to put this into your head now, but I keep reading the 'VTB Russian Grand Prix' as 'Valtteri Bottas Russian Grand Prix'
I hope the track would be 100% green with a deluge today that forces cars to multiple stops.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 23:01That's 9 laps...The race is around 6 times longer than that, the tires are going to fall off a cliff and be horrendous to drive on in ~20 laps, there will be almost no grip in the rear, maybe you can nurse them for a one stop, but you'll be so painfully slow that it's not worth it.Fulcrum wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 18:34I can think of 3 reasons for doing more than 2 stops: desperation, trying to steal the fastest lap, or getting a 'free stop' during a Safety Car period. You'd likely require a combination of these factors to facilitate 3 stops.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 16:02It's going to rain until around 4pm tomorrow local time, with the heaviest rain around FP3 time, from what I can see. It won't be more than a drizzle on Sunday, likely dry. The rain will mean that there's a green track that will rubber in, I hope we saved our Hard tires, we're going to need them come race day. The undercut is very powerful, however there is a long pit time penalty.
The rears will need protecting.
A two stop is looking likely for the race, with a 3 stop being almost as fast. It may also afford enough pace disparity to make overtakes possible. If they don't have the top speed to make the pass into turn 2, then they'll need the downforce to make the pass into turn 13
This track has a pitlane speed limit of 60kph. Between that and the low degradation tarmac, pit stops are hugely disincentivized, as evidenced by every race ever held here.
Look at the data from Practice 1, where the tyres typically degrade at their worst.
Bottas (C3) - 9 lap stint
01:41.762
01:40.801
01:41.978
01:40.761
01:40.675
01:41.172
01:40.232
01:40.615
01:40.516
Average: 01:40.946; 01:40.682 if excluding the initial high 01:41's.
I.e. Degradation lower than the fuel burn-off effect.
The Mercs are going to be under little to no threat with Max at the back of the field. They'll try to get through to Q3 on the C4 (yellow), nurse those tyres for as long as required during the race, before pitting for C3 (white). Then, come race end, they'll bolt on some C5's for the fastest lap. A 'fake' 2-stop in other words.
All of this assuming a dry race without Safety Cars.
So an, as yet, unobserved, yet humongous drop off in tyre performance. Okay then.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 23:01That's 9 laps...The race is around 6 times longer than that, the tires are going to fall off a cliff and be horrendous to drive on in ~20 laps, there will be almost no grip in the rear, maybe you can nurse them for a one stop, but you'll be so painfully slow that it's not worth it.Fulcrum wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 18:34I can think of 3 reasons for doing more than 2 stops: desperation, trying to steal the fastest lap, or getting a 'free stop' during a Safety Car period. You'd likely require a combination of these factors to facilitate 3 stops.godlameroso wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 16:02It's going to rain until around 4pm tomorrow local time, with the heaviest rain around FP3 time, from what I can see. It won't be more than a drizzle on Sunday, likely dry. The rain will mean that there's a green track that will rubber in, I hope we saved our Hard tires, we're going to need them come race day. The undercut is very powerful, however there is a long pit time penalty.
The rears will need protecting.
A two stop is looking likely for the race, with a 3 stop being almost as fast. It may also afford enough pace disparity to make overtakes possible. If they don't have the top speed to make the pass into turn 2, then they'll need the downforce to make the pass into turn 13
This track has a pitlane speed limit of 60kph. Between that and the low degradation tarmac, pit stops are hugely disincentivized, as evidenced by every race ever held here.
Look at the data from Practice 1, where the tyres typically degrade at their worst.
Bottas (C3) - 9 lap stint
01:41.762
01:40.801
01:41.978
01:40.761
01:40.675
01:41.172
01:40.232
01:40.615
01:40.516
Average: 01:40.946; 01:40.682 if excluding the initial high 01:41's.
I.e. Degradation lower than the fuel burn-off effect.
The Mercs are going to be under little to no threat with Max at the back of the field. They'll try to get through to Q3 on the C4 (yellow), nurse those tyres for as long as required during the race, before pitting for C3 (white). Then, come race end, they'll bolt on some C5's for the fastest lap. A 'fake' 2-stop in other words.
All of this assuming a dry race without Safety Cars.
