NathanOlder wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 22:52
Artur Craft wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 21:29
djones wrote: ↑09 Oct 2021, 21:21
Just watched that video on the last page.
So he gets pole, but it's not classed as a pole for the records as there is a race penalty? What a joke that is.
Has always been like that. For instance, the pole sitter of the 2012 Monaco GP was Mark Webber because, well, he started on pole.
Bottas is pole because he will start on pole while, at Monza, Valteri set the fastest lap on QLF, won the QLF Sprint Race(or whatever that nonsense is called) but started last, so, officially, no pole for Bottas on Monza 2021
Who got pole at the 1998 Japanese Grand Prix?
Michael. Now, I’m guessing you’re suggesting that stalling from pole on the formation lap means he didn’t “start from pole” but, to phrase it a little differently, it’s because he “took the pole slot on the grid” (even if he didn’t get off the line).
Monaco 2021 is an even better example of what I think you’re trying to say - Leclerc wasn’t even on the grid and still “got pole”. But the bottom line is this: if you get a grid penalty, you don’t get pole. This has always been the case and, even if it might seem weird, there is some logic (ie sometimes the reason for the penalty is an infringement that could have contributed to the pole - eg a fresher engine, not enough fuel in the car etc). Moreover, it’s the same here as it’s always been (at least for the last 30 years or so), so shouldn’t really be a surprise.