Why? The squat device will be massive in Mexico. Not a single really fast corner without a braking point.
Why? The squat device will be massive in Mexico. Not a single really fast corner without a braking point.
Based on where RB was fastest here in Austin, they will probably dominate S2 and S3 in Mexico. With the thinner air, the difference in engine power will likely be lower so I see that as being an RB track if they get the setup correct.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 00:16OK, so on to Mexico then. Does anyone know if the Honda still has a larger compressor than the Merc? I remember Allison cited that as the reason for it being better at high altitude, but is that still the case now when Honda has improved their PU? In any case, I don’t think Mexico and Brazil will be a slam dunk for RB as the media and most people make it out to be.
Squat device won't be helpful at all. Higher altitude means less air resistance, hence why they run barn door wings there.
It does for sure, raising the ride height will heavily affect the downforce on a low rake car like the Merc. You will get less downforce from the floor, and it will be more unpredictable. That's why it looked on rails in FP1, and then looked unstable at the rear the rest of the weakened.
Squatting at the rear and stalling the floor is always beneficial, regardless of altitude.
The thinner air will even make the floor regs even a bigger issue for mercedes. Floor will be even more sensitive.BlueCheetah66 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 00:32Based on where RB was fastest here in Austin, they will probably dominate S2 and S3 in Mexico. With the thinner air, the difference in engine power will likely be lower so I see that as being an RB track if they get the setup correct.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 00:16OK, so on to Mexico then. Does anyone know if the Honda still has a larger compressor than the Merc? I remember Allison cited that as the reason for it being better at high altitude, but is that still the case now when Honda has improved their PU? In any case, I don’t think Mexico and Brazil will be a slam dunk for RB as the media and most people make it out to be.
Since the Stone update Merc can produce more DF. This was obvious in Hungary and to some degree in Turkey.mkay wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 00:39Squat device won't be helpful at all. Higher altitude means less air resistance, hence why they run barn door wings there.
Merc's high DF package is not as good as Red Bull, and the rear-limited track layout really favors Red Bull's chassis.
I don't see how Merc gets even a sniff at P1 unless something miraculous happens (like getting our first wet Mexican GP?).
A smaller or different shaped compressor is what they had. They should have had a more similar one to Mercedes since last year. Let's wait and see.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 00:16OK, so on to Mexico then. Does anyone know if the Honda still has a larger compressor than the Merc? I remember Allison cited that as the reason for it being better at high altitude, but is that still the case now when Honda has improved their PU? In any case, I don’t think Mexico and Brazil will be a slam dunk for RB as the media and most people make it out to be.
The problem is that even in Austin you need a significant time delta to pass. I think 1.2 seconds was quoted yesterday. Everyone says Austin is easy to overtake at, but it isn't in an F1 car. The car in front either needs to make a mistake or have some serious tire degradation.Sieper wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 15:38why would they. Lewis built a 3 lap advantage in his first stint and a 5 lap in his second (without loosing much time). With them knowing the white tire would be an advantage I would also take that over track position. f you go first who knows how many laps Verstappen still could have gone on his yellows. Then a white and finishing on yellows would likely also have made Hamilton very vulnerable. I really thought Hamilton would win it after the second pit stop. Indeed already when he closed the 6 seconds down so early in the first white stint I thought the race was over.
Yeah, that straight after turn 11 was where it needed to happen for Merc. Then you have DRS and that last part where the car crouches down it becomes really fast. There Perhaps a lesser delta would have sufficed. But the RedBull had the better traction out of 11. That is possibly the difference between high rake/low rake and not having the springs compromised for the rear crouching as much as Mercedes (if that even requires a compromise, which is to be expected but does it?).dans79 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 16:12The problem is that even in Austin you need a significant time delta to pass. I think 1.2 seconds was quoted yesterday. Everyone says Austin is easy to overtake at, but it isn't in an F1 car. The car in front either needs to make a mistake or have some serious tire degradation.Sieper wrote: ↑25 Oct 2021, 15:38why would they. Lewis built a 3 lap advantage in his first stint and a 5 lap in his second (without loosing much time). With them knowing the white tire would be an advantage I would also take that over track position. f you go first who knows how many laps Verstappen still could have gone on his yellows. Then a white and finishing on yellows would likely also have made Hamilton very vulnerable. I really thought Hamilton would win it after the second pit stop. Indeed already when he closed the 6 seconds down so early in the first white stint I thought the race was over.